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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
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 Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:38 am Post subject: Anyone been camping, swimming, etc by the Han river? |
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I remember years ago, while travelling on the train, spying a cool wee island on the Han river somewhere between Seoul and Yangpyeong. It was pretty small, with just some grass and trees on it, but I thought it would be a cool place to padde out to and camp out overnight.
Has anyone here ever been exploring along the Han river outside of Seoul? Has anyone been camping or picnicing near Paldang lake or around Yangsuri? |
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Frankly Mr Shankly
Joined: 13 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| Down near its source in Chungju, Chungchonbukdo, there is a big lake/dam and some camping spots. |
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pie eater
Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Location: The Bando
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| Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:46 am Post subject: Re: Anyone been camping, swimming, etc by the Han river? |
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| kiwiduncan wrote: |
I remember years ago, while travelling on the train, spying a cool wee island on the Han river somewhere between Seoul and Yangpyeong. It was pretty small, with just some grass and trees on it, but I thought it would be a cool place to padde out to and camp out overnight.
Has anyone here ever been exploring along the Han river outside of Seoul? Has anyone been camping or picnicing near Paldang lake or around Yangsuri? |
Just wait for the Seoul-Busan canal to be built Duncan - and you'll be able to do some camping and fishing once it has been built!  |
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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:16 am Post subject: Re: Anyone been camping, swimming, etc by the Han river? |
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| pie eater wrote: |
| kiwiduncan wrote: |
I remember years ago, while travelling on the train, spying a cool wee island on the Han river somewhere between Seoul and Yangpyeong. It was pretty small, with just some grass and trees on it, but I thought it would be a cool place to padde out to and camp out overnight.
Has anyone here ever been exploring along the Han river outside of Seoul? Has anyone been camping or picnicing near Paldang lake or around Yangsuri? |
Just wait for the Seoul-Busan canal to be built Duncan - and you'll be able to do some camping and fishing once it has been built! |
Hi Pie Eater, thanks for bringing that up  . Actually the Grand Canal plan has been "abandoned" but controversy is now brewing over the Four Rivers project.
Here's a recent news article about how the promotional videos for the Four Rivers project have been full of distortions.
http://imnews.imbc.com//replay/nwdesk/article/2280680_2687.html
Here's the translation (please let me know if I've made any glaring mistakes)
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４대강 살리기 기획단이 오늘 공식 출범하면서 내놓은 홍보동영상이 말썽입니다.
On the same day that the Four Rivers Revival Planning Group was officially launched dispute has arisen over the publicity video.
우리 강이 죽어간다는 점을 지나치게 강조한 나머지 엉뚱한 사실과 그림이 들어갔습니다.
In contrast to the excessive stress placed on the idea that our rivers are dying, an unexpected picture and reality has entered.
허무호 기자입니다.
Heo Mu Ho reports
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정부 과천청사에서는 4대강 살리기 기획단이 오늘 현판식을 갖고 업무를 시작했습니다.
Today at the Gwacheon Government Complex the Four Rivers Revival Planning Group unveiled their official plaque and began their project.
4대강 살리기 기획단이 만든 3분짜리 동영상 홍보자료입니다.
This is a 3 minute promotional video prepared by the Four Rivers Revival Planning Group.
우리나라 강이 '죽어가고 있기' 때문에 4대강을 다시 살려야 한다며 개발의 명분을 제시했습니다.
It presented the moral obligation to revive and develop the four great rivers because our country's rivers are �dying�.
이어 우리 강에는 물고기가 살지 않는다며 연어가 죽어있는 화면이 등장합니다.
Then, while saying fish don't live in our rivers the video showed a scene with dead salmon.
그런데 문제의 화면은 우리나라 강이 아니었습니다.
However, the scene in question was not from one of our rivers.
굳이 외국의 자료화면을 쓴 이유를 물었습니다.
I asked the reason for using foreign scenes
◀ＩＮＴ▶ 국토해양부 대변인 "잠깐 잠깐... 이것은 내가 볼 때 인터뷰 하는 게 적절치 못해."
Ministry of Land, Transport and Maritime Affairs spokesperson �Just a minute, just a minute, it's not appropriate to interview me about this�
동영상에는 또 우리나라 4대강에 습지가 없다고 돼 있습니다.
It's also claimed in the promotional video that the 4 rivers have no wetlands.
그러나 우포늪을 포함해 11개의 람사르 등록습지가 있고, 국토해양부에는 습지를 관할하는 부서가 엄연히 존재하고 있습니다.
But including the Upo Wetlands there are 11 RAMSAR registered wetlands [Duncan's note: I don't know how many of these are within the area to be affected by the four rivers project] and there is a division that has jurisdiction over wetlands within the MLTMA.
◀ＩＮＴ▶ 김희국 기획단장/4대강 살리기
"(연안습지는 국토해양부가 관할이란 말이에요?)
연안습지? 해수부, 해수부,,. 아, 해수부, 해양..."
Kim Hee Kuk, Four River Revival Planning Group Head
(Interviewer's question): �Is it true the MLTMA has jurisdiction over coastal wetlands?�
�Coastal wetlands? Ministry of Maritime Affairs and Fisheries, MOMAF, MOMAF�
홍보영상은 또 우리나라 강을 철새가 찾지 않는 곳이라며 마치 죽은 강처럼 묘사했습니다.
The promotional video also claimed no migratory birds can be found in our rivers and portrayed the rivers as being dead.
그러나 우리 강에는 해마다 50만 마리의 철새가 찾아오고 있습니다.
However, every year 500,000 migratory birds come to our rivers.
◀ＩＮＴ▶ 명 호 상황실장/운하백지화국민행동
"그 자체가 합의가 안 돼 있는 상황 속에서 얼마나 더 많은 왜곡이 있을 것인지 굉장히 우려스럽고요."
Myung Ho, Briefing Room Head, People's Movement for the Grand Canal to go back to the drawing board[I think they mean this � though 백지 actually means white(blank) paper)]: �Given that there's been no consultation we're really concerned about how many other false representations there will be�
국토해양부는 잘못된 표현은 고치겠다며 블로그에 올려져 있던 문제의 동영상을 삭제했습니다.
The MLTMA said it will correct its erroneous expressions and has erased the problem video from its blog.
◀ＩＮＴ▶ 김희국 기획단장/4대강 살리기 "우리는 팩트 갖고 얘기하는 것이지, 그걸 호도나 왜곡하고 싶은 생각은 추호도 없어요."
Kim Hee Kuk, Four River Revival Planning Group Head �We are talking about facts aren't we. We don't have the slightest thought of glossing over or distorting things�
MBC 뉴스 허무호입니다.
Heo Mu Ho for MBC news. |
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phoneboothface
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| Next time I piss in it on the walk home drunk I'll think of you... |
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SHANE02
Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:32 am Post subject: |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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Swimming? I won't swim in public pools in Korea, much less the freaking Han river.
Camping? Maybe during DJ festival or passing out drunk, but planning a "relaxing" weekend on the Han? Impossible. |
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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
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Jane
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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If you are looking for camping and swimming one weekend, how about Jawoldo, one of Incheon's islands.
You can pitch your tent for free on the beach on Jawoldo. To get there, you can take a ferry from the Incheon domestic ferry terminal. I think the one to Jawoldo leaves at 9am. I haven't been there yet, but it's on my to do list for this summer.
I heard from Jawoldo, you can take a day trip to a place called Moraetop, which is this beach island thing in sea. There are no trees or any vegetation on the island, just sand.
Don't forget to bring bottles of water (I heard on some islands it is harder to come by), and bug reppellent.
The 1330 tourism hotline can give you better information than me. |
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