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EPIK - airfare reimb., making me sign POWER OF ATTORNEY
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rayjoy



Joined: 19 Jan 2008
Location: Dynamic Busan

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:20 am    Post subject: EPIK - airfare reimb., making me sign POWER OF ATTORNEY Reply with quote

I consulted with my CT today about my departure from Korea. I asked her if I could get my airfare reimbursement before I left. She called Mrs Choi at the Busan Education Office who told her to have me sign a POWER OF ATTORNEY form, granting POA to my school who can consequently call up immigration and verify I have left the country and THEN they will pay me at my home bank account.

I've never even heard of this!

Has anyone else in EPIK signed one of these things? What is the standard reimbursement procedure? I'm guessing there is none but I have never heard of this Power of Attorney thing before. I'm worried there are further ramifications with signing this other than just checking that I've left the country.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not a chance..
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oftenadrift



Joined: 13 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow... anyone who knows what a Power of Attorney is would never, ever sign one unless you had absolute trust in that person, as it gives them carte blanche to use your name, access/handle bank accounts etc. (Occasionally it can be specfic, to say one bank).

For example. here in Canada, I would fill out a form to give say, my mother, power of attorney so that she could act on my behalf in event I was incapaciated or incapble of handling my accounts for a time. There would have to be witnesses present to sign that same form who wouldn't benefit from me handing over POA to that person.

This whole thing sounds like a BAD idea. Don't sign ~.~ I've never, ever heard of anyone asking for POA in Korea.
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hobakmorinam



Joined: 22 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. EPIC in Busan is losing the plot.
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hobakmorinam



Joined: 22 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They want to make sure you have actually left the country, and not just canceling your ticket and taking the cash. It shouldn't matter as they still have to pay the same money. It just shows you where their heads are.

"Oh, we don't want the foreigner to actually profit from working with us. Better make sure he leaves the country."

Hmm, OK, maybe I'll go...and never come back. Good luck with the 22 yo noob that will be replacing me.
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jonbowman88



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Location: gwangju, s korea

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the past they made me get a receipt, and keep the boarding pass. This proves a) how much you paid and b) that you left the country. No more should be needed. Since you need to show the boarding pass you were reimbursed after you came back.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Signing a blank power of attorney is like signing your life away.

I'm sure they'll will check with immi to ensure that you've left Korea. Then they'll use the POA to cash in your airfare and/or severance (if not paid) for soju and room salon party. Laughing
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rayjoy



Joined: 19 Jan 2008
Location: Dynamic Busan

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonbowman88 wrote:
In the past they made me get a receipt, and keep the boarding pass. This proves a) how much you paid and b) that you left the country. No more should be needed. Since you need to show the boarding pass you were reimbursed after you came back.


Well, I'm not coming back.

Since nobody seems to have signed this POA form, what have they done to "prove" you've left the country? Or why is this such an issue? Isn't this more of an issue that immigration should worry about and not my school?

In asking around, nobody has said they've signed this form. This concerns me.
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Freddypops



Joined: 11 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mental.

I think Choi Mi-yeong's pretty sexy though, what do you think? I didn't know she was married. She wasn't acting married.
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Theo



Joined: 04 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a horrible employer in Korea (which shall remain nameless for now) and I was always hearing "management" (two Brits: one an aggresive bully, and the other sleazy and underhanded) spout very similar policies (as the one detailed in the OP) to my colleagues.

It didn't become an issue for me because I returned home from a hospital with my own funds never to look back again.

For a country so hungry for foreign teachers, it seems to dedicate itself to making things as cumbersome, inefficient, and annoying as possible for expats.

So glad to be outta there.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would tell them to make payment arrangements before I left and settle all IOU's or I would be staying in Korea and fighting it. It's in their best interest to pay up and get rid of that kind of person/pest.

I would also inform any new teachers of the circumstances.
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antoniothegreat



Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

simple question...
why are they not just buying your ticket and handing you the ticket?

and like everyone says, if you give them POA and then dont get any money, you got what you deserve. back home, if a coworker says "give me your credit card, SS card, bank account, checks, driver's license and all passwords" would you do it?
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rayjoy



Joined: 19 Jan 2008
Location: Dynamic Busan

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

antoniothegreat wrote:
simple question...
why are they not just buying your ticket and handing you the ticket?

and like everyone says, if you give them POA and then dont get any money, you got what you deserve. back home, if a coworker says "give me your credit card, SS card, bank account, checks, driver's license and all passwords" would you do it?


I suggested that but my CT just kind of moved on from that. I will bring it up again and say that a Power of Attorney is a very serious legal measure and I'd be handing more of my power to them than is necessary.

I saw on the EPIK Facebook group that someone had their school buy their ticket home. I would prefer this and it would be impossible for me to change or cancel the ticket. Or even if I bought it from Expedia, generally the tickets they sell there are nonrefundable.

Ugh, this will be a push with my school. They are very "by the book" and if someone at the Education Office tells them to do something, I believe it will be very difficult to influence them to do something another way.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rayjoy wrote:

I saw on the EPIK Facebook group that someone had their school buy their ticket home. I would prefer this and it would be impossible for me to change or cancel the ticket. Or even if I bought it from Expedia, generally the tickets they sell there are nonrefundable.



Ah! This would be the most intelligent thing to do. But most Korean are too lazy or too corrupt to do this.

Just think about it. If one Korean is left to purchase the ticket for X number of FT's airfare, this Korean will get XXXX million won kick back from the travel agent(s).
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It says in the contract that they pay for your ticket if you finish the contract. So you can buy it ahead of time so you actually have one, and they have to pay you the money on your last day. There's no reimbursement option for them unless you are going on holiday for renewing.
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