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pattinsons
Joined: 28 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:03 pm Post subject: Relationships In Korea in the Future |
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Quick question. As the female youths of Korea are exposed to western values do you think the dynamics of relationships between Koreans will change? There is a economy which is based upon adultry. Do you think that as more of the youths of the country are exposed to western views will the relationship dynamics become more monogamous? |
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chemicalblur
Joined: 30 May 2009
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Never knew monogamy was only a "western" practice. You speak as if adultery runs rampant here in Korea. |
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Joe666
Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Location: Jesus it's hot down here!
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure viewing the west as the standard for monogomy is valid. I believe as Koreans become more "westernized", the mixing of old confucian values and "westernization" is going to cause more confusion. It's happening now with the younger generation. On a side note, the idea of religious practices and monogomy/fidelity = JOKE! Monogomy/fidelity is purely an individual/ethical personal choice. |
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alphakennyone

Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Location: city heights
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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I think he meant prostitution. I'm not sure what "economy" there is based on adultery...what, motels?! Ever seen the shows where they use black lights to scan all the stains in American hotel/motel/"no-tell" room beds?
I find it strange as prostitution, in what I've seen, is in two categories in America: the very rich (Governor Spitzer of New York ordering a $5000 a night call girl) and the poor (a dishwasher picking up a street walker on El Cajon Blvd for $50). Your average middle class guy can't afford a call girl (or Bunny Ranch or whatever) and I doubt would stoop so low as to pick up a rather unattractive streetwalker. OK, OK...there's the massage parlor "happy endings," but still. Maybe there is more that I'm unaware of since it isn't as conspicuous as Korea...or maybe it's because I don't read "Dong-Il's Study Abroad Cafe" filled with guys who know all about the subject.
But in Korea, it seems like there's a market for every social class, relationship status, fetish. Barber poles, anmas, coffee girls, hotel callgirls, room salons, red-lights. The vast variety amazes me. It caters to every income level and "relationship status"...I doubt many married guys are having coffee girls come over. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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chemicalblur wrote: |
Never knew monogamy was only a "western" practice. You speak as if adultery runs rampant here in Korea. |
It is, and it does. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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If you are 40 and unmarried in Korea then something is wrong with you; yet fortysomething Korean men frequent barber shop poles, coffee shop girls and other forms of prostitution with no sense of contradiction.
Monogamy IS an issue for young Korean women. If you have adult classes then the topic may have come up as it has in my classes. So has issues of gender equality and how women who get married don't want all the traditional responsibilities of ancestor worship prep during holidays.
Not much of a topic of discussion for us foreign teachers though, is it? *shrug* |
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mysterious700
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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VanIslander wrote: |
If you are 40 and unmarried in Korea then something is wrong with you; yet fortysomething Korean men frequent barber shop poles, coffee shop girls and other forms of prostitution with no sense of contradiction.
Monogamy IS an issue for young Korean women. If you have adult classes then the topic may have come up as it has in my classes. So has issues of gender equality and how women who get married don't want all the traditional responsibilities of ancestor worship prep during holidays.
Not much of a topic of discussion for us foreign teachers though, is it? *shrug* |
Hos is monogamy an issue for young Korean women? They have a hard time with being monogamous or they don't like the old men going for coffee? |
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mayorgc
Joined: 19 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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VanIslander wrote: |
If you are 40 and unmarried in Korea then something is wrong with you; yet fortysomething Korean men frequent barber shop poles, coffee shop girls and other forms of prostitution with no sense of contradiction.
Monogamy IS an issue for young Korean women. If you have adult classes then the topic may have come up as it has in my classes. So has issues of gender equality and how women who get married don't want all the traditional responsibilities of ancestor worship prep during holidays.
Not much of a topic of discussion for us foreign teachers though, is it? *shrug* |
What exactly is the issue for the young Korean women? Are they for monogamy or against it? |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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I'm more interested in how the relationship dynamic will change with men becoming more feminized (aka pansies). I'm starting to see guys wear earrings that are clearly for women and couples where the girl is pretty much leading the guy around.
I think you will see much more "impure blood mixing" with women going for more masculine western men (assuming they continue to come here) and more men ordering bribes from south east asia.
As for the prostitution, I just wish it becomes more consistent; Korean society should choose either to accept it or not. Instead of having it illegal yet with massage parlors at every street corner. |
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Goku
Joined: 10 Dec 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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I remember reading some articles about monogamy and why generally humans are usually 1 gal/guy creatures.
Humans most closely resemble birds (or monkeys take your pick) in terms of mating habits.
They will generally create a nest with a significant other and choose the male/female that best suits their needs for child rearing. A female chooses a dependable male that brings home the bacon or can offer protection. A males chooses the prettiest or the most motherly because those features mean she won't abandon the kids and will nurse them.
However, adultery, even in birds occurs often. Males fly over to other nests and mate with the married female.
But humans were built as monagmous creatures (with a few exceptions) in order to establish a nuturing enviroment for our offspring. But we always have desire to mate with others in order to ensure our gentic code is passed on either to many birds, or to the best and hottest birds. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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I've had an adult class of seven twentysomething Korean women worry about the fidelity of their future Korean husbands, each wanting the exception to the rule, someone who won't sleep around even if just paid for sex, two of them thinking marriage might not even be a good idea these days. |
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chemicalblur
Joined: 30 May 2009
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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VanIslander wrote: |
I've had an adult class of seven twentysomething Korean women worry about the fidelity of their future Korean husbands, each wanting the exception to the rule, someone who won't sleep around even if just paid for sex, two of them thinking marriage might not even be a good idea these days. |
It's funny, the married women I slept with back home seemed to say the same thing. |
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Emeliu
Joined: 31 Mar 2009 Location: Korea, i'm OMW
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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chemicalblur wrote: |
VanIslander wrote: |
I've had an adult class of seven twentysomething Korean women worry about the fidelity of their future Korean husbands, each wanting the exception to the rule, someone who won't sleep around even if just paid for sex, two of them thinking marriage might not even be a good idea these days. |
It's funny, the married women I slept with back home seemed to say the same thing. |
They said they wanted a husband who didn't sleep around? And you slept with them? doesn't make any sense |
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benji1422
Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Location: Los Angeles & Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:31 am Post subject: |
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Women worry about monogamy, and lie about it better than men because of social pressure not to be sluts. Women are geniuses at lying to themselves and pretending s--- never happened after a drunken night. Thats why they love drinking -- not because they love the buzz, but because it makes them not give a f-- when they want to go home with some cutie.
Since I was in a bad relationship for 5 years, I'm avoiding the girlfriend types now... and I'm usually the guy that girls sleep with when they're cheating on their boyfriend. Or I'm the guy in between their relationships... the FWB which ends in a "lets just be friends" conversation. Or I'm the guy who's a pitstop on their way to a sucker who wants to marry them so they don't have to work. I'm also a good listener so many of my female friends, some of whom are married, or those who I am not attracted, tell me about all the affairs they have and how they cheated on their boyfriend for no reason whatsoever.
Don't believe that women don't cheat. Yes, your girl does to.... or could in the right circumstances. They do and they do it for lame reasons... such as if they're feeling insecure, not sexy today, ovulating, need to feel "wanted" or the b-friend isn't givin' it proper... and unless they're ugly, frigid or have a million kids and a job and they're too busy and then they can't.
But otherwise, they know they are desired and love the feeling of being desired. Women do not plot and scheme as much as guys though. They seem to do it spur of the moment, at a time when they least expect it, and then program themselves to will that moment out of existence. |
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jamesteacho
Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Location: Non of your business/somewhere in shibuya Japan
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:04 am Post subject: |
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benji1422 wrote: |
Since I was in a bad relationship for 5 years, I'm avoiding the girlfriend types now... and I'm usually the guy that girls sleep with when they're cheating on their boyfriend. Or I'm the guy in between their relationships... the FWB which ends in a "lets just be friends" conversation. Or I'm the guy who's a pitstop on their way to a sucker who wants to marry them so they don't have to work. I'm also a good listener so many of my female friends, some of whom are married, or those who I am not attracted, tell me about all the affairs they have and how they cheated on their boyfriend for no reason whatsoever. |
I slept with Ichiro's wife. Would you believe it?
Im JOKING BTW |
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