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shostahoosier
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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 Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:21 am Post subject: Why is Ulsan left? |
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I've heard that Ulsan is the only place thats still taking applications.
Is it that bad of a place to live that it cant get enough people?
Also...why doesnt Ulsan fall under EPIK? |
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MissLady717
Joined: 04 Jun 2009
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uslan is under EPIK. that's where they placed me too.
i heard that it was still open cuz some people dont want to do the mandatory summer camp thing? but im not really sure either... |
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E_athlete
Joined: 09 Jun 2009
Location: Korea sparkling
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| id honestly wouldnt complain and take it. 100's are applying each week with nothing to show for it. These are very bad times to apply for English teaching in Korea. |
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kokujin
Joined: 17 May 2009
Location: Washington, DC
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: Why is Ulsan left? |
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| shostahoosier wrote: |
I've heard that Ulsan is the only place thats still taking applications.
Is it that bad of a place to live that it cant get enough people?
Also...why doesnt Ulsan fall under EPIK? |
I heard that there's a whole lot of pollution. |
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Mr_Anderson
Joined: 05 Dec 2008
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: Why is Ulsan left? |
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| shostahoosier wrote: |
I've heard that Ulsan is the only place thats still taking applications.
Is it that bad of a place to live that it cant get enough people?
Also...why doesnt Ulsan fall under EPIK? |
Interesting. I saw an official document that says out of the 140 public school teachers employed by Ulsan city, from Sept 08 to end of Aug 09, only 40 are renewing!
They mustn't be that desperate, as I requested to renew within the same Metropolitan area (not just at the same school), and was denied.
Oh and the other poster is right. It is polluted. But it does have a very good ex-pat community that's a plus, at least. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Why is Ulsan left? |
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| Mr_Anderson wrote: |
Interesting. I saw an official document that says out of the 140 public school teachers employed by Ulsan city, from Sept 08 to end of Aug 09, only 40 are renewing! |
That says something! |
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Mr_Anderson
Joined: 05 Dec 2008
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Why is Ulsan left? |
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| oldfatfarang wrote: |
| Mr_Anderson wrote: |
Interesting. I saw an official document that says out of the 140 public school teachers employed by Ulsan city, from Sept 08 to end of Aug 09, only 40 are renewing! |
That says something! |
Hmm it does! But it would be nice to know that out of all these teachers not renewing, how many have been denied from renewing (like myself).
Just seems silly to me, if they're still wanting EPIK teachers yet are not letting people renew who want to renew (like myself).
I guess they want a high turnover to give the kids a lot of exposure to many foreign faces. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Why is Ulsan left? |
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| Mr_Anderson wrote: |
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| Mr_Anderson wrote: |
Interesting. I saw an official document that says out of the 140 public school teachers employed by Ulsan city, from Sept 08 to end of Aug 09, only 40 are renewing! |
That says something! |
Hmm it does! But it would be nice to know that out of all these teachers not renewing, how many have been denied from renewing (like myself).
Just seems silly to me, if they're still wanting EPIK teachers yet are not letting people renew who want to renew (like myself).
I guess they want a high turnover to give the kids a lot of exposure to many foreign faces. |
Or to drive down costs by not re-newing experienced (and more expensive ) teachers.
Or, perhaps, they haven't a clue how to treat their western employees, and many people just don't want to work there.
Something is wrong . In an international recession, those 100 ex teachers are going home to certain unemployment. Even with a falling won, sky high inflation, and social/cultural isolaltion, Korea still offers recent graduates employment and savings opportunities.
Something smells fishy to me. |
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shazo
Joined: 01 Jul 2009
Location: Chicago
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Are there any recruiters that are still placing teachers in Ulsan through EPIK? |
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Tobias
Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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Ulsan is a good place to live. Good enough, anyway.
Keep trying. EPIK seems to want high turnover for sure. Perhaps they're also writing up new contracts that offer less in salary, and they simply assume present teachers won't want to take a pay cut. They're probably right if that's the reason the current teachers aren't being offered renewals. |
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meangradin
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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a couple of tid bits about Ulsan: it is one of the wealthiest cities in Korea, and probably Asia, with an average income in the $40,0000 + area (USD). Also, it has has the lowest peforming PS, at all levels, in Korea
(for a city of its size).
Anyway, I dig the Ulsan, and have for years, but I have VERY low expectations in life. |
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meghanr83
Joined: 15 Jun 2009
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Is Ulsan any worse than Busan? I thought it was surrounded by mountains and such....and it being so rich there, what is the rate of private tutoring? |
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meangradin
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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| Is Ulsan any worse than Busan? I thought it was surrounded by mountains and such....and it being so rich there, what is the rate of private tutoring? |
IMO, Busan is much better than Ulsan. Ulsan does have a reputation of being polluted, which it does to deserve, but it is a very large city (in terms of size, the largest in Korea) and most of the factories are in the industrial area. There are some nice mountains and there are some beaches, but due to the size of the city, they can be over an hour away, depending on where you are.
The problem I think most have with Ulsan is the lack of culture, which is a very valid complaint. IMO, the city is geared towards young families and the middle class, so there aren't a lot of cultural events that don't revolve around the family. I have to say that this is what I love about Ulsan, as I am a famly man. But for a young person looking for an endless stream of goodtimes, this may be off putting. The city, due to it's wealth, has really tried to improve certain areas, such as the walkways alongside the Tae Wa river, and there has been a noticable effort to add cultural elements to the city, but these things are in the incohate phase and again, geared towards famlies.
Ulsan has a reasonably wealthy middle class, so there is always alot of room for privates, but the pay is pretty much the standard rate. Anyway, if you want to know more about Ulsan, then check out Marty's site: ulsanonline |
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alphakennyone
Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: city heights
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