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[sakamuras]

Anyone know what this job would entail?

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=37985

[alphakennyone]

I'm not a gyopo, so I'm not eligible for that position. I will say that Poly is known for long hours for its teachers. I imagine that would be even truer for someone in a management position.

[Goku]

I have a friend

She is a gyopo and had to do the managerial tasks for the school and did some teaching as well.

She said it was a very tough job. Because essentially she had to organize classes, times and what to do, yelling at underlings for messing up or sometimes even dealing with parents.

I could tell when she talked about it she got pretty grumpy so I pretty much strayed from the topic.

Not to say this will be the same for everybody, but I gathered she did her role quite well but its very stressful.

On the plus side it really really helps on your resume andshe seemed rather proud to tote a managerial position to her name. Can't blame her I do it all the time too. Take roles of responbility is tough and is important to ensuring future jobs

[frankly speaking]

3 million seems quite low since they pay their teachers higher than most schools. I know of a few people that work there and they make 2.8, but they have long hours teaching. I don't think that any management position is worth taking unless it is at least 4-5 million. You will have to work at home and even weekends to do class schedules, organize teacher training. I have not been a manager there but have been at other schools and it isn't always fun. The higher salary is nice, but to be frank I have gone back to classroom teaching. Less pay but less stress. I would much rather earn less money to be able to enjoy my life.

If you want to get into school management then try it. One thing for Poly is that they usually run quite well.

[red_devil]

I know some gyopos that have landed management roles at big chains like Avalon, Poly, Pagoda, etc. They work total sweatshop hours and have a ton of shit to deal with (as was mentioned), and they also are the go-between from the Korean staff and the Foreigner Teachers but they get paid quite a bit something like 5-6M. They also speak unaccented English and near perfect Korean, always a plus. That job posting for 3M considering the kind of work and stress you have to go through should be illegal if not inhumane.

[Fredbob]

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2088794&highlight=#2088794
recent thread on a similiar topic

I'm not sure that Academic Coordinators are considered managers outside of the KoreanESL World and 3mil seems pretty low. On an f4, if you met all those qualifications, you could easily make more at corporations, hagwons or private tutoring

[polonius]

It would really depend on what the job duties are. In the ad it doesn't state what the manager is responsible for. 3 mil is not that much if your job is to mediate between brass and teachers.

There is alot of stress that goes with it, as well as a lot of ignorant teachers who really shouldn't be teaching. You will always get the brunt of the problems, it will always be you who is at fault in the eyes of the foreign teachers, as they mostly believe that they can do no wrong.

I stand up for my teachers when they are in the right, but I also back up management when they are right.

At the end of the day, you will have to learn not to take the work home with you, as it will haunt you.

Also, don't mention to people on this site that you are a manager, as they will attack you simply because you are part of "the man"

You will be isolated, as you will not be part of the Korean management, nor will you be part of the foreign team, no matter how hard you try to befriend them. You will always be perceived as their boss, and they will always act differently around you.

[saw6436]

I make much more than that just teaching at my Hagwon. 3 mil is no-where near enough for a "management" job.

[FUBAR]

[sakamuras]

[VanIslander]

I turned down a 3.5 mill "assistant director" position offered to me this spring once I scratched the surface and found the position

a) had little actual power to make decisions (wife of director would do class scheduling, and texts were by franchise so curriculum development not open to much) and

b) in fact was a glorified slave teaching position, as one would have to be available anytime, meaning 7 days a week, countless hours, at the beckoning call.

[Straphanger]

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