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Can someone tell me about the F2 visa?
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is so delicious



Joined: 28 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Can someone tell me about the F2 visa? Reply with quote

I am thinking of proposing to my Korean girlfriend. Can someone tell me about the F2 visa? Is that automatic if you marry a Korean citizen? Does it last forever, or does it have to be renewed? Is paperwork required? Etc.

Appreciate any help.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you need to apply for it
some people are asked to show assets of 30 million won to secure the visa (property, bank accounts or combination)
its good for 1 or 2 years, usually 2 unless something makes them question the sincerity of the relationship.
After 2 years you can try to upgrade to an F5, most people report it seems to be easier if you've had kids by that point. or you can just renew the F2.
You'll need to make sure you're registered at the same residence.
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Scouse Mouse



Joined: 07 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Visit your local Immi office and get a list of the documents they want to see (they often have different requirements for the investigation). Documents can include testimony from your spouses friends/family amongst other things (I had to provide these).

There does need to be a 30m "asset", but your employment contract usually counts towards it, as does key money on an apartment. The assets can be in your spouses name.

You want an F-2-1 as that gives work permission.

It is NOT automatic unless you have kids (and the kids must be 3 months old for the automatic F-2). They are rarely refused, but they will decline the application if they doubt the sincerity of the marriage. The decision usually takes 2 weeks. My wife was heavily pregnant by the time I got around to applying. The Immi official just laughed and asked me if I wanted a new ARC card to go with my new visa. Instant decision.

The first F-2-1 is good for 1 year. After that you can renew it. I only got 1 year on my first renewal, but I had a new Immi officer (new to the job) and she was clueless. Nice, but clueless. Most people get 2 years for their 2nd.

After you have had the F-2-1 for 2 full years, you can apply for the F-5. That is permanent and can never be taken away. The investigation for this visa takes a few months and they hang on to your passport for the duration.

Hope this helps Smile
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is so delicious



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This helps a lot. Thanks, guys. Does it matter if the marriage certificate or whatever is from Korea or the USA??
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Scouse Mouse



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are married in Korea, then it is simple. If you were married outside of Korea you may need to apply from your home country. You may want to call Immi and check that one.
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b-class rambler



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is so delicious wrote:
This helps a lot. Thanks, guys. Does it matter if the marriage certificate or whatever is from Korea or the USA??


If you get married outside Korea, I think you (or to be more precise, your wife) will need to "register" your marriage with a Korean consulate/embassy. At least, that's what happened in my case.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did it back in March. If you are American, make sure you do the American marriage first at the embassy in Jognro. Then you can do the Korean paperwork at the Korean registry across the street. You cannot be married in Korea before being legalized in America. Once you have marriage papers you have to go to your immigration office, either in Mokdong or up north, and file for the F-2-1. Only takes about a week if everything is in line. I was required to show proof of a job and show my housing contract.
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Ruraljuror



Joined: 08 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was required to show proof of a job and show my housing contract.


The people who have posted before who have had trouble in getting the F-2 all make the same mistake: They live in hagwon-provided housing. If you have your own place there won't be a problem. If you and your wife can't prove that you have your own place to live, that will raise questions.

Hope this helps.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruraljuror wrote:
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I was required to show proof of a job and show my housing contract.


The people who have posted before who have had trouble in getting the F-2 all make the same mistake: They live in hagwon-provided housing. If you have your own place there won't be a problem. If you and your wife can't prove that you have your own place to live, that will raise questions.

Hope this helps.


Proof of a job shouldn't be required. The farmer's wives who get F-2s don't have jobs. I'm pretty sure the website only says you need to show the 30,000,000W to show you're capable of taking care of yourself. But some people haven't even been asked for that and every immigration officer apparently sometimes makes up random requirements.
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Ruraljuror



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Proof of a job shouldn't be required. The farmer's wives who get F-2s don't have jobs. I'm pretty sure the website only says you need to show the 30,000,000W to show you're capable of taking care of yourself. But some people haven't even been asked for that and every immigration officer apparently sometimes makes up random requirements.




I don't disagree with this.

My wife called ahead and was told by immigration that the most important document we needed to bring was our signed lease. They never asked for our bank statements (which was good as we had nowhere near 30 million), and I've never heard of anyone saying that their finances were checked out. I think that is something that is on the website, but in practice is ignored unless they smell something fishy.

But they WERE insistent that we had a lease with our name on it.
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Scouse Mouse



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There needs to be proof of family income (not necessarily proof that you have a job), as it needs to be shown that the family can support itself. If your wife has a job, it's all good. Saying that you have no job could let them issue you an F-2 though, and that is bad as it does not give you permission to work. What you want is an F-2-1 Wink

The lease is important as it shows you have a home. If you live in school provided housing, it can cause problems.

The 30m could be made up with your lease, or your contract, but I have a feeling that it has recently been dropped. The Govt. are removing the financial requirements for naturalisation of spouses, and as the F-2 comes before naturalisation, it stands to reason that it would be removed from the list.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife and I married outside Korea and we did not register the marriage until we returned to Korea. My wife registered the marriage in her family registration book. She needed to provide a certified copy (apostilled today) of the marriage document and a translation of the document into Korean from a Korean notary. Simple process that took about five minutes to complete.
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b-class rambler



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DHC wrote:
My wife and I married outside Korea and we did not register the marriage until we returned to Korea. My wife registered the marriage in her family registration book. She needed to provide a certified copy (apostilled today) of the marriage document and a translation of the document into Korean from a Korean notary. Simple process that took about five minutes to complete.


When we were about to register ours at the Korean consulate, I too was asking if it was necessary and wondered if we couldn't just do it when we moved to Korea. I was told that it would be ok to do that, but registering with the consulate would make some later procedures unnecessary. Your post seems to confirm that, as we never needed the apostilled copy or a translation into Korean of the original document. And when we moved to Korea and on a couple of occasions requested proof of marriage documents for the local dong office, everything, including the details of the consulate we registered at and the date, was already on their computer.

I guess it's probably worth weighing up the incovenience of going to a Korean consulate versus the inconvenience of the not exactly big hurdles on return to Korea that DHC mentions above. In our case, we'd been living a short distance away from a Korean consulate.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruraljuror wrote:
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Proof of a job shouldn't be required. The farmer's wives who get F-2s don't have jobs. I'm pretty sure the website only says you need to show the 30,000,000W to show you're capable of taking care of yourself. But some people haven't even been asked for that and every immigration officer apparently sometimes makes up random requirements.




I don't disagree with this.

My wife called ahead and was told by immigration that the most important document we needed to bring was our signed lease. They never asked for our bank statements (which was good as we had nowhere near 30 million), and I've never heard of anyone saying that their finances were checked out. I think that is something that is on the website, but in practice is ignored unless they smell something fishy.

But they WERE insistent that we had a lease with our name on it.


I believe a lot of it is based on how you appear when they see you. No joke. My wife and I had all of the documentation ready, plus proof of over 30 million between us. They never once looked at it. They didn't even seem to care that we lived in university housing. Maybe it was how we dressed?

We got so much paperwork together, and it was completely ignored. Oh well, we had it if they had needed it.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:


I believe a lot of it is based on how you appear when they see you. No joke. My wife and I had all of the documentation ready, plus proof of over 30 million between us. They never once looked at it. They didn't even seem to care that we lived in university housing. Maybe it was how we dressed?

We got so much paperwork together, and it was completely ignored. Oh well, we had it if they had needed it.


Did you have kids when you applied?
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