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Manner of Speaking
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 Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:23 am Post subject: Anybody tried out Opera? (the browser software) |
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I just ran across an article on it in the International Herald Tribune, so I thought I'd download it and give it a try. MUCH superior to Internet Explorer, it seems. Very fast. And it's nice to have a web browser in English at home.
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camel96
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:35 am Post subject: |
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I just downloaded it now.....
It's incredibly fast. So far it seems far better than Internet Explorer. |
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Manner of Speaking
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Does seem really fast, doesn't it. Their website and the IHT article claims that it uses much less memory than Explorer and is faster.
It has a few too many bells and whistles on the menu bars for my taste (I suppose I can get used to them), but bookmark managing is really flexible. Nice product! |
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camel96
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
Does seem really fast, doesn't it. Their website and the IHT article claims that it uses much less memory than Explorer and is faster.
It has a few too many bells and whistles on the menu bars for my taste (I suppose I can get used to them), but bookmark managing is really flexible. Nice product! |
Yeah that's my only grievance, the amount of space the tool bars take up.
I guess like you say it's a case of getting used to it after years on I.E.
Most pages load more or less as soon as I hit the enter key. |
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overdrawn
Joined: 25 Jan 2004
Location: dave's esl cafe
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| camel96 wrote: |
| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
Does seem really fast, doesn't it. Their website and the IHT article claims that it uses much less memory than Explorer and is faster.
It has a few too many bells and whistles on the menu bars for my taste (I suppose I can get used to them), but bookmark managing is really flexible. Nice product! |
Yeah that's my only grievance, the amount of space the tool bars take up.
I guess like you say it's a case of getting used to it after years on I.E.
Most pages load more or less as soon as I hit the enter key. |
i tried it out a few years back and found it to be a pain in the ass. i don't know, maybe i am just way to used to IE. i had trouble accessing some sites i had no problems getting on to with IE. it was also a pain in the ass to learn all the new tools in the tool bar, adjust the options and other crap. believe me, you may get a kick out of it now, but the novelty will soon wear off and you'll come back to IE. |
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camel96
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:26 am Post subject: |
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| camel96 wrote: |
| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
Does seem really fast, doesn't it. Their website and the IHT article claims that it uses much less memory than Explorer and is faster.
It has a few too many bells and whistles on the menu bars for my taste (I suppose I can get used to them), but bookmark managing is really flexible. Nice product! |
Yeah that's my only grievance, the amount of space the tool bars take up.
I guess like you say it's a case of getting used to it after years on I.E.
Most pages load more or less as soon as I hit the enter key. |
i tried it out a few years back and found it to be a pain in the ass. i don't know, maybe i am just way to used to IE. i had trouble accessing some sites i had no problems getting on to with IE. it was also a pain in the ass to learn all the new tools in the tool bar, adjust the options and other crap. believe me, you may get a kick out of it now, but the novelty will soon wear off and you'll come back to IE. |
You're probably right. But that having been said it's let me onto several sites in a second that IE's been struggling with all night. |
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overdrawn
Joined: 25 Jan 2004
Location: dave's esl cafe
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| camel96 wrote: |
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| camel96 wrote: |
| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
Does seem really fast, doesn't it. Their website and the IHT article claims that it uses much less memory than Explorer and is faster.
It has a few too many bells and whistles on the menu bars for my taste (I suppose I can get used to them), but bookmark managing is really flexible. Nice product! |
Yeah that's my only grievance, the amount of space the tool bars take up.
I guess like you say it's a case of getting used to it after years on I.E.
Most pages load more or less as soon as I hit the enter key. |
i tried it out a few years back and found it to be a pain in the ass. i don't know, maybe i am just way to used to IE. i had trouble accessing some sites i had no problems getting on to with IE. it was also a pain in the ass to learn all the new tools in the tool bar, adjust the options and other crap. believe me, you may get a kick out of it now, but the novelty will soon wear off and you'll come back to IE. |
You're probably right. But that having been said it's let me onto several sites in a second that IE's been struggling with all night. |
perhaps they've improved it. i tried it some time ago when it was virually unknown in these parts. if it has been upgraded perhaps it's worth keeping. i'm a traditionalist when it comes to technocracy.  |
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Tony Danza's Houseguest
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:26 am Post subject: |
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A couple of things I've noticed so far. Maybe those who've used it for longer can clear up some problems:
First, I'm using a laptop with a touchpad and it doesn't allow me to click back by sliding my finger across the top of my touchpad. I'm not sure why, but the interface doesn't seem to recognize my desire to go backwards one page.
Actually, that's my only quibble at this point. It seems mighty nice. It even sucked up all my outlook express emails like some sort of weird, gelatinous monster.
Edit: Ah.. and I have a habit of double-clicking on text to make it go negative (white becomes black, black becomes white) because I like to read text like that. The browser always wants to 'copy text' or 'copy to not' or 'look this up in the encyclopedia' or 'destroy the world.' |
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overdrawn
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| Tony Danza's Houseguest wrote: |
A couple of things I've noticed so far. Maybe those who've used it for longer can clear up some problems:
First, I'm using a laptop with a touchpad and it doesn't allow me to click back by sliding my finger across the top of my touchpad. I'm not sure why, but the interface doesn't seem to recognize my desire to go backwards one page.
Actually, that's my only quibble at this point. It seems mighty nice.. |
give it time.  |
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camel96
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:54 am Post subject: |
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 I'm back on I.E.
I couldn't work out how to access my Website Favorites list from Opera and I'm too lazy to go back and forth.
It's good to know it's there for the days that Hotmail's crapping out though. |
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Dan
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Location: Sunny Glendale, CA
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 9:07 am Post subject: |
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If you guys remember Netscape, Mozilla, which is the open source version of Netscape has a GREAT browser called Fire Fox. I now use it as my default browser now and only turn on IE when some stupid webpage is designed with only IE in mind.
It's only a 6 meg download, try it out, it has a lot of the features of Opera, like tabbed browsing, but also browser integrated search, and automatic pop up blocker.
Download at: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Does seem really fast, doesn't it. Their website and the IHT article claims that it uses much less memory than Explorer and is faster.
It has a few too many bells and whistles on the menu bars for my taste (I suppose I can get used to them), but bookmark managing is really flexible. Nice product! |
You can remove some of the toolbars - just go into the view menu. I like opera better than IE for a number of reasons #1 being speed and resources and #2 being the ability to easily skin it. |
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Hank Scorpio
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody tried out Opera? (the browser software) |
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I just ran across an article on it in the International Herald Tribune, so I thought I'd download it and give it a try. MUCH superior to Internet Explorer, it seems. Very fast. And it's nice to have a web browser in English at home.
www.opera.com |
Yeah, Opera's a good browser. If you use Windows, though, I'm more partial to Avant Browser. It's basically just a shell for Internet Explorer, so it doesn't have any of the incompatibility problems that Mozilla and Opera have, but it adds tabbed browsing, a pop up stopper, a Flash filter, mouse gestures and other doodads. |
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Manner of Speaking
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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You can remove some of the toolbars - just go into the view menu. I like opera better than IE for a number of reasons #1 being speed and resources and #2 being the ability to easily skin it. |
Yeah I figured out how to simplify the menu(s) a bit. Looks much better.
Hank and Dan,
Thanks! I will try them out. These come as a bit of a surprise to me, I had assumed there was only Explorer and Netscape. ** duh ** I really liked the old Netscape, but every time I tried to download it these days it seems like it tries to take over my whole desktop.
Have any of you guys ever used Software602? Its a freeware office suite with Microsoft Office-compatible spreadsheet, photo editor and word processor. I've used it for about 4 years now to prepare lessons for work and I've found it to be pretty good. Handles Korean fonts as well. |
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Hank Scorpio
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Have any of you guys ever used Software602? Its a freeware office suite with Microsoft Office-compatible spreadsheet, photo editor and word processor. I've used it for about 4 years now to prepare lessons for work and I've found it to be pretty good. Handles Korean fonts as well. |
Go with OpenOffice. It's a completely freeware office suite that even includes a PowerPoint clone, and it's also MS Office compatible (opens their documents, and in fact, you can even save documents in Word, Excel, etc format).
It was originally called StarOffice, Sun Microsystem's main form of competition against MS's suite, but a couple of years ago they branched off and this is the open source branch of things. An extremely capable productivity package. |
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