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Both parents need citizenship for F-4 visa?

 
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ashin21



Joined: 11 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:54 pm    Post subject: Both parents need citizenship for F-4 visa? Reply with quote

My mom has american citizenship, my dad has a green card issued years before I was even born. Is this enough for F4 visa?

THanks in advance =]
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djbeans



Joined: 15 Jul 2009
Location: US

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from what i understand about the f-4 visa is that if you're the immediate family member of someone who used to have korean nationality (after 1948), but who has foreign nationality/citizenship now, you qualify. i don't think it matters which parent it is...though the document you need to show your parent used to be a korean national is a recent copy (last 6 months) of their family registry (hojuk). so if your mom can get a copy then your more or less set, cause then you just need your birth certificate showing you're your mother's kid.

hope this helps...i'm in the midst of trying to get my dad's hojuk from korea myself.

note: it needs to be an immediate family member of your parent to request their hojuk, otherwise the person picking it up needs a letter for a power of attorney stating you give this person permission to request and pick up the family registry.
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j20kim



Joined: 08 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ashin--

my f-4 visa was just issued. i was told to submit documents for just one parent. that is, as long as one parent is a u.s. citizen, you're okay. i submitted my dad's docs because my dad's brother was able to get a copy of their hojuk. here is what i submitted:

-$45 & korean visa application
-my u.s. passport
-my u.s. birth certificate
-one copy of father's recent family registry documents (hojuk)
-slip of my father's renunciation of korean citizen (in korean, it's referred to as a receipt)
-one copy of my father's u.s. certificate of naturalization - your consulate may require the original

it took only 2 days to get the visa. good luck.
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t1m1ty



Joined: 24 May 2009
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if I have my mother's 'hojuk' but her name is on it (old one from before she became a US citizen)?

Right now I have my mom's old 'hojuk' that has her name on it, her U.S. Certificate of Naturalization, my passport, and my birth certificate. Do I need her renunciation of Korean citizenship as well, because she does not have that at all?
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j20kim



Joined: 08 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would ask your local korean consulate about your mom's change of name. you may as well also ask whether or not your mom will need to renounce her korean citizenship--likely, yes. the san francisco and los angeles korean consulates DO require renouncement of citizenship. check google for a phone number.

you will need a recent hojuk, issued within the past 6 months. if you mom's name on the current/recent hojuk (likely her original name, unless your mom or her family members officially changed her name or deleted her from the hojuk altogether) matches the name on your birth certificate, it may not be an issue.
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aphase



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

t1m1ty wrote:
What if I have my mother's 'hojuk' but her name is on it (old one from before she became a US citizen)?

Right now I have my mom's old 'hojuk' that has her name on it, her U.S. Certificate of Naturalization, my passport, and my birth certificate. Do I need her renunciation of Korean citizenship as well, because she does not have that at all?


My mothers name is still on the hojuk, it hasn't caused problems. Also, you need a recent copy of it, an old one doesn't work. I think they're good for a couple months?

Never submitted a renunciation of korean citizenship, everything was fine.
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t1m1ty



Joined: 24 May 2009
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The hojuk that I have with me is probably over 20 years old. How would I go about receiving a new one? Do I have to call my relatives in Korea to send it?

j20kim wrote:
i would ask your local korean consulate about your mom's change of name. you may as well also ask whether or not your mom will need to renounce her korean citizenship--likely, yes. the san francisco and los angeles korean consulates DO require renouncement of citizenship. check google for a phone number.


My mom is already a US citizen and has her Certificate of Naturalization with her (actually with me right now since I'm preparing for my visa). My dad also is a US citizen with a Certificate of Naturalization. I currently only possess my mom's hojuk, but it's from 1984. My dad doesn't have one. Don't people have to renounce their Korean citizenship when they receive a Certificate of Naturalization in the US?
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djbeans



Joined: 15 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm in the same boat...my dad has his hojuk but it's like almost 40 years old...when we called the SF consulate, they said we needed a recent copy of his hojuk (within the last 6 months).

as for the renouncing korean citizenship, my dad "technically" did this when he became a us citizen, but the renouncing the korean citizenship is a paper that your parent has to sign formally saying they are renouncing their korean citizenship. if you call your designated consulate they "should" be able to help you out with what papers you need to fill out and documents you need to submit.

note...to get your parent's hojuk, you need one of their immediate family members (only way for the office to know is if that family member is on the hojuk themselves as well) to request it in korea...my cousin tried to get it for us, but they told him that he needs to either be an immediate family member of my dad or have a paper saying he has a power of attorney letter from my dad (basically stating that my dad is giving my cousin the power of "attorney" to request his hojuk).
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The renunciation of all other citizenships is a statement made to the United States government and has no bearing whatsoever on what the other country says about your citizenship. For Korea, you need to contact the Korean consulate to determine (a) if you are still considered Korean and (b) if you will be subject to the draft when you arrive.
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j20kim



Joined: 08 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=161650
chonga put all the information together nicely.
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t1m1ty



Joined: 24 May 2009
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I'm going to Korea with an E-2 then switching to a F-4 once there. Gathering everything I need such as the hojuk and my parents renunciation paper works seems like it will take too long to receive. I plan to leave to Korea on the 12th of August to meet some friends and family. Being in Korea at that time, I think it'd be easier to pick up a family hojuk
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