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Message to Annoying Drunk Foreigners (leave me alone!)
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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:40 pm    Post subject: Message to Annoying Drunk Foreigners (leave me alone!) Reply with quote

I've only been here for one month, yet every time I go out, some foreigner has come up to me and said some racist/borderline racist stuff.

The first time I went out with Koreans and foreigners (sorry, it's been white guys) the only conversation they could think to muster up with me was about the size of black mens' penises and all the various words they could think of to say "black" and how OMG I'm the first black person they've met and how special that must make me feel.

What is this? Why is that even appropriate? For the people who do this, why do you even care? Why should I automatically want to give you that information? Why are you making me to be some sort of lab animal? I'm human, I want to have fun just like you. Can we not make this about my skin color...again?

Remember when I wrote this in the other thread this:

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That said, it's gotten to the point where a lot of (white) people think it's okay to randomly go up to black (and other non-white) people at parties and just say whatever the hell they want.


Yesterday, I was out with my coteacher and coworkers from school, and as we're leaving, some random white guy comes up to me and starts trying to do some sort of random "black" handshake. Then he said "Yeah, I'm a BROTHAA!" and told all my coworkers it was "cookies and cream" night.

None of them got what was going on, of course, but it was still annoying.

So here is my message to the (few) posters here who do this (and I know some of you do):

If you're drunk and are thinking about saying some funny (read: offensive) things to me, leave me alone. Count to five, walk backwards a few steps, and just let me pass.

And if you're that guy who is friends with this guy, and you still hang around him, you're as bad as he is.


I'm not in college and no matter how nice I look, you don't [MOD EDIT for swearing] know me and I don't [MOD EDIT for swearing] know you!

Whatever it is, leave me alone. Leave me out of it. I don't want to be a part of whatever it is you have going on. Because not only do I have to take care of my drunk coworker who's having emotional issues because another coworker doesn't like her, I then have to explain to my other, more sober coworkers that 1. I don't actually know you and 2. I don't want to explain the racist shit you just said to me.

As a side note, whenever foreigners complain about "racism" in Korea, I always think about how a lot of non-white foreigners have to experience double racism/discrimination from Koreans AND white people from our own countries.

So for the tl;dr crowd:

1. Leave me alone if I don't know you and you're too drunk to be civil
2. non-white foreigners in Korea often have to field against offensive questions and actions from white foreigners as well as from Koreans

Just something to think about.

The end.

(takes a bow)
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gggggggggggggggggggaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Youpurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttttyyyyyyyyyyyy....................................................................................................
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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:
Gggggggggggggggggggaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Youpurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttttyyyyyyyyyyyy....................................................................................................


Exactly.
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Emeliu



Joined: 31 Mar 2009
Location: Korea, i'm OMW

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let it out, let the frustration out. Its just the white guy's way of trying to make up amends for years of oppressing the african americans, except that they're doing it in the completely wrong way.
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Palladium



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you like some cheese to go along with your whine?!?
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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Palladium wrote:
Would you like some cheese to go along with your whine?!?


Wow, you're so clever and SO ORIGINAL! No, seriously! How did you ever manage to come up with something like that? I mean, to literally put "cheese" with "whine"!!! Because it's supposed to be "wine" right? And seriously, I have never heard that before! Not once!

Dave's has a real comic genius here!

Laughing
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toadhjo



Joined: 07 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This just strikes me as so weird...but I guess people are more likely to do dumb stuff when their in a foreign place on a (presumably) temporary basis.

I'm not going to say that I'm "colorblind" or anything like that, but when I meet new people, I don't treat them differently based on race.

That said, when I was in Japan, I wasn't the "talk to random foreigners" guy...I don't expect that to change in Korea.
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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toadhjo wrote:
This just strikes me as so weird...but I guess people are more likely to do dumb stuff when their in a foreign place on a (presumably) temporary basis.

I'm not going to say that I'm "colorblind" or anything like that, but when I meet new people, I don't treat them differently based on race.

That said, when I was in Japan, I wasn't the "talk to random foreigners" guy...I don't expect that to change in Korea.


I mean, I don't mind if other foreign people come up to me and make jokes or are just enjoying themselves. I love meeting new people and just hanging out. Many of my good friends I've actually met this way (albeit in the United States).

But when everything is offensive, why should I accept that?
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polonius



Joined: 05 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kabrams, Sorry to hear about your experience. I know a couple white guys who act like they are from Compton. They will come up to my best friend and pull some stuff like you described. We tell them that we are having a serious talk that they wouldn't understand and shoo them away.

Albert Einstein wrote:
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP. I empathise. That's an intolerable & inexcusable situation. If it's any consolation to you, I was asked to get off the bus a few weeks ago, by a racist Korean driver, because I was quitely speaking in English. Never mind that the Koreans behind me were screaming at the top of their voices into their cellphones, other cellphones were ringing on the bus, & the radio was blaring Kpop in the bg. I just yelled at him to leave me alone, 3 times, & refused to budge from my seat. I threatened to call the police on my cellphone, if he didn't stop harassing me. He gave up, & went back to the drivers seat. I'm white, btw.
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Chambertin



Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: Gunsan

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well kabrams, as you seem like an interesting person, I wish you the best in dealing with the situation.

I�m a drunk, quite annoying, especially because I love to talk about everything.
I think the key factor most are lacking is empathy.

Before you say something think about how the other person will perceive it. If you are too impaired to do so then have an elegant exit strategy. (not involving a Dave Chappelle or other racial comic joke) Racism is a factor of life and can be funny. It is not funny without understanding of the truths involved, which I think just about everyone, is still in the process of learning.
The only reason why some racist jokes can be accepted is that those who tell them do so out of observation and experience, not out of justification or preconception.

Retelling of the joke does not carry the original message. In fact a damn good joke can be butchered by those who fail to understand its core. (hence the post)

I�d love to hang out and shoot the malarkey some time. I can�t say I always agree with your opinions, yet they intrigue me.
Don�t let the others get to you too much, please. Again good luck and rant on, just don�t forget your own advice. I often save my posts to word and then go over them when I am a bit clearer.

How to put this: Friends of a different race are your own worst mirror, and the very virtue by which you discover yourself. Or they piss you off to no end. Yay

On another note, I�m wine and cheese all in the same basket.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chambertin
http://www.fromages.com/cheese_library_detail.php?id_fromage=147

Why does the wine always get props? Vive le Fromage!
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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Idiots Reply with quote

chris_J2 wrote:
Hyeon Een wrote

Quote:
What do you think of the fried chicken here?


Why thank you, for that little non sequitur.

OP. I empathise. That's an intolerable & inexcusable situation. If it's any consolation to you, I was asked to get off the bus a few weeks ago, by a racist Korean driver, because I was quitely speaking in English. Never mind that the Koreans behind me were screaming at the top of their voices into their cellphones, other cellphones were ringing on the bus, & the radio was blaring Kpop in the bg. I just yelled at him to leave me alone, 3 times, & refused to budge from my seat. I threatened to call the police on my cellphone, if he didn't stop harassing me. He gave up, & went back to the drivers seat. I'm white, btw.


That's so racist. Who cares if you're speaking English? They have no right to treat you like crap.

Quote:

How to put this: Friends of a different race are your own worst mirror, and the very virtue by which you discover yourself. Or they piss you off to no end. Yay


I think some people here think that I have some random dislike of other people or white people in general. I'm the product of an IR family. We cross all colors.

I just don't know why if they want to tell the jokes, they just don't tell it to their black friends who might be more appreciative of it...Maybe they have no black friends. Maybe they feel like they can do whatever they want.

I don't even know.
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Oreovictim



Joined: 23 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've got to be kidding me. So if you could guess, how old were these guys? I know - old enough to know better. I'll assume that they're right out of university, but still . . . how weird.
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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oreovictim wrote:
You've got to be kidding me. So if you could guess, how old were these guys? I know - old enough to know better. I'll assume that they're right out of university, but still . . . how weird.


The other guys were around 30 and they are Ph.D students (I know, right?!), and the one guy yesterday looked maybe late 20s.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kabrams wrote:
Oreovictim wrote:
You've got to be kidding me. So if you could guess, how old were these guys? I know - old enough to know better. I'll assume that they're right out of university, but still . . . how weird.

The other guys were around 30 and they are Ph.D students (I know, right?!), and the one guy yesterday looked maybe late 20s.

An I the only one who got the lyrics to "I'm So Hot" in my head when I read this?

Maybe you could start to solve your problem by not being so full of yourself.
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