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How easily is the intelligence of fifth-graders insulted?

 
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Morgen



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:43 pm    Post subject: How easily is the intelligence of fifth-graders insulted? Reply with quote

So I put the Hokey Pokey on my plan for summer camp for 5th grade elementary without thinking too much about it, but the more I try to work out the details the more I think it might bomb. The fact that I can only find videos of it with five-year-olds or people with pillow masks on their heads seems telling. I know that Korean kids tend to like things that we associate with much younger age groups in the West, but "shaking it all about" seems only slightly more dignified than the Chicken Dance and I'm not sure they'll be into it. Has anyone had any success/failure with this age group? Or have a good link for a video or copy of the song? What body-related song can I use instead?
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andrewchon



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Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:03 pm    Post subject: hokey pokey Reply with quote

Cullen's ABC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDd89tX7M1s
does a dinosaur hokey pokey
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Burndog



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: hokey pokey Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
Cullen's ABC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDd89tX7M1s
does a dinosaur hokey pokey


That woman destroyed my will to live.
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andrewchon



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Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh C'mon, be nice. At least she saves me the pain of doing it myself. I've promised my 2nd graders I'd never do it again. Well, I won't but she will!

As for grade 5: I've got them to sing but never dance. I've tried but only succeeded in poking each other in the eye.
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icnelly



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Re: hokey pokey Reply with quote

Burndog wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
Cullen's ABC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDd89tX7M1s
does a dinosaur hokey pokey


That woman destroyed my will to live.


Yes...I was angry within 5 seconds.

OP, here's a low key Hokey Pokey version with lyrics.
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Burndog



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: hokey pokey Reply with quote

icnelly wrote:
Burndog wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
Cullen's ABC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDd89tX7M1s
does a dinosaur hokey pokey


That woman destroyed my will to live.


Yes...I was angry within 5 seconds.

OP, here's a low key Hokey Pokey version with lyrics.


Go with icnelly...his videos have saved my lessons more times than I can count!
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andrewchon



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Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't understand the negative reaction to Cullen's. Can you explain what's bad about her? As for icnelly's vs Cullen's: my illiterate 5th graders would not respond to static photo and unreadable (still learning phonics) lyrics. With Cullen's at least there are movements for them to imitate.
If Cullen's was used as intro to hokey pokey, then it'll be bad. it was suggested for use after Morgen had gotten 'lame-o!' from conventional video of 5 year olds. Then hit them with "check this one out then".


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ChinaBoy



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The day I teach the "hokey pokey" might be the day I finally commit suicide.
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Elvis Gratton



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as you sing and dance out the moves for them first they should think it's really cool. Since there's a void of good vids, why don't you get a student to videotape you, and then you can put it up on youtube?
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saw6436



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Insulting the intelligence of 5th graders is unpossible. The is nothing to insult.
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egrog1717



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did the hokey pokey with some 5s during winter camp, they loved it... Bright colours and lots of action... What's not to like? lol
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ESL Milk "Everyday



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoa... I don't know what everyone else's grade fives are like, but I seriously can't see mine getting into doing the hokey pokey. You do know this is for kindergarten students in the west?

It might suit their English level, and I think they might go along with it, but there's a good chance they will think it's extremely stupid. Keep in mind that this is the age where things like cell phones, haircuts, style, and popularity start becoming very important.

If there's still time, there are plenty of pop songs that they will no doubt enjoy... and you can always get them to design their own dance routines for them-- the girls especially seem to like that kind of thing a lot.

There are heaps of Beatles songs with simple words that are great to adapt... and if you want to be adventurous, there are a lot of 60s/70s pop songs that have simple, often wholesome lyrics that everyone can enjoy.

Something like 'Sugar Sugar' by the Archies might work a bit better...
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Burndog



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
I can't understand the negative reaction to Cullen's. Can you explain what's bad about her? As for icnelly's vs Cullen's: my illiterate 5th graders would not respond to static photo and unreadable (still learning phonics) lyrics. With Cullen's at least there are movements for them to imitate.
If Cullen's was used as intro to hokey pokey, then it'll be bad. it was suggested for use after Morgen had gotten 'lame-o!' from conventional video of 5 year olds. Then hit them with "check this one out then".


I suppose it's all about the English level of the children. My Grade 5 students would die if I played them this. They would die if I played the Hokey Pokey at all. They prefer pop songs, and get ansty if something is too junior for them. BUT their English level is REALLY good.

I use icnelly's videos for my Grade 3 students and they have NO trouble following...they LOVE Apples and Bananas...it's a HUGE hit!
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poet13



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: hokey pokey Reply with quote

Burndog wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
Cullen's ABC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDd89tX7M1s
does a dinosaur hokey pokey


That woman destroyed my will to live.


I just killed myself.
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