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D-Jay
Joined: 24 Jun 2009
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 Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:54 pm Post subject: Other teaching jobs? |
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| I have been thoroughly unimpressed with the public school scene and I look forward to finishing my contract next month. I've checked uni salaries, but they are too low. So it looks like my only other option is to go back to hagwon hell... unless there are other types of jobs worth considering? I prefer to stay in Busan, by the way. |
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Rex Jacobs
Joined: 17 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Public Schools have really went down the crapper these days. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject: other jobs |
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| Only one I can think of is television. Do you have the talent/commitment/ego/conchas? |
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qwerty123
Joined: 15 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| Rex Jacobs wrote: |
| Public Schools have really went down the crapper these days. |
Could you elaborate? |
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SFValley
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:11 am Post subject: Re: Other teaching jobs? |
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| D-Jay wrote: |
| I have been thoroughly unimpressed with the public school scene and I look forward to finishing my contract next month. I've checked uni salaries, but they are too low. So it looks like my only other option is to go back to hagwon hell... unless there are other types of jobs worth considering? I prefer to stay in Busan, by the way. |
OP, mind sharing what you didn't like about your experiences in a PS? |
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D-Jay
Joined: 24 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: other jobs |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
| Only one I can think of is television. Do you have the talent/commitment/ego/conchas? |
I have none of the above. Looks like there's a hagwon in my future! |
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D-Jay
Joined: 24 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: Other teaching jobs? |
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| SFValley wrote: |
OP, mind sharing what you didn't like about your experiences in a PS? |
I'll try to keep my comments to a minimum, since I don't want to start a pro- vs. anti- public school war going on these forums. For now, let's just say that public school contracts are becoming less favorable as they keep chipping away at the things that used to be benefits of working at a public school. The move towards unpaid camps really pushes it over the top. |
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SFValley
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: Other teaching jobs? |
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| D-Jay wrote: |
| SFValley wrote: |
OP, mind sharing what you didn't like about your experiences in a PS? |
I'll try to keep my comments to a minimum, since I don't want to start a pro- vs. anti- public school war going on these forums. For now, let's just say that public school contracts are becoming less favorable as they keep chipping away at the things that used to be benefits of working at a public school. The move towards unpaid camps really pushes it over the top. |
I see. Thanks for sharing. Good to know. |
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call_the_shots
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| How about an adult hagwon such as Pagoda or Wall Street. |
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Theo
Joined: 04 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: Other teaching jobs? |
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| D-Jay wrote: |
| I'll try to keep my comments to a minimum, since I don't want to start a pro- vs. anti- public school war going on these forums. For now, let's just say that public school contracts are becoming less favorable as they keep chipping away at the things that used to be benefits of working at a public school. The move towards unpaid camps really pushes it over the top. |
Welcome to Korea! We welcome foreigner teacher people with open arms, and closed hands!
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| How about an adult hagwon such as Pagoda or Wall Street. |
Yeah, they're great if you like working split shifts for the first few months -- or even the entire duration of your contract.
You know the oh-so-attractive drill: Arrive at school at 6:30AM, begin your first class at 7:00; have a few hours off after lunch, and then resume teaching in the afternoon, finishing at 9:00-10:00PM -- and then report for duty again at 6:30 the following morning?
Hagwon newbies get the worst schedules.
And of course, no housing is provided for adult hagwon FTs. |
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Wingnut
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Other teaching jobs? |
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| Theo wrote: |
| D-Jay wrote: |
| I'll try to keep my comments to a minimum, since I don't want to start a pro- vs. anti- public school war going on these forums. For now, let's just say that public school contracts are becoming less favorable as they keep chipping away at the things that used to be benefits of working at a public school. The move towards unpaid camps really pushes it over the top. |
Welcome to Korea! We welcome foreigner teacher people with open arms, and closed hands!
| call_the_shots wrote: |
| How about an adult hagwon such as Pagoda or Wall Street. |
Yeah, they're great if you like working split shifts for the first few months -- or even the entire duration of your contract.
You know the oh-so-attractive drill: Arrive at school at 6:30AM, begin your first class at 7:00; have a few hours off after lunch, and then resume teaching in the afternoon, finishing at 9:00-10:00PM -- and then report for duty again at 6:30 the following morning?
Hagwon newbies get the worst schedules.
And of course, no housing is provided for adult hagwon FTs. |
Actually, nobody works split shifts at Wall Street. Full-time teachers all work an eight-hour shift (2pm to 10pm or 6:40am to 2:40pm for example) where they will teach up to six 55-minute classes. |
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Theo
Joined: 04 Jul 2009
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Ok, thanks for clarifying. It seems Wall Street might possibly be the one and only exception to the split shift schedule policy for new arrivals.
What about housing? Are they the exception to the "no housing provided" contract feature as well? |
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Wingnut
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Outside Seoul, yes. Teachers can choose the apartment they want to live in and Wall Street will arrange everything.
In Seoul, no. Wall Street will go with teachers to find an apartment and put down 10 million won key money, but the teachers have to pay the monthly rent. |
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Theo
Joined: 04 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the follow-up info. That's certainly better than what I encountered with my hagwon in Seoul. They promised in writing, that they would assist me with finding housing, especially because I was thrust into teaching 8 one-hour classes a day the very next morning after coming to Seoul (arriving at school at 6:15) for 5 days a week, plus 4 one-hour classes on Saturdays.
When I tried to hold them to their pledge (producing the written statement they sent me, of course) they finally found a very low-level person -- who was basically working as an errand boy -- to accompany me. He had a horrible attitude (told me that he hated working for the hagwon leaders), and so I continued the search on my own without future "assistance" from the school.
PS-- the disgruntled housing "assistant" walked out a week later. |
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