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Obama or McKinney -- Who Represents Black America?
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:55 am    Post subject: Obama or McKinney -- Who Represents Black America? Reply with quote

Apparently, it's Cynthia McKinney.

Barack Obama or Cynthia McKinney -- Who Represents Black America Toward Palestine, Israel and the Middle East?

Submitted by Bruce A. Dixon on Wed, 07/08/2009

Former congresswoman Cynthia McKinney has just returned from an Israeli jail where she was briefly imprisoned, along with human rights activists from several nations, for her second attempt at publicly running the brutal US-Israeli blockade trying to bring coloring books, food and medical supplies. Why are the US and Israel imposing this collective punishment upon 1.5 million civilians. How does McKinney's stand match up against that of our first black president, the most powerful man in the world who calls it a "humantarian crisis" but will do nothing about it? And how do they both stack up against the legacy of Dr. King?

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Both Obama and McKinney have traveled to the region more than once in the last several months.


It's almost an unfair question. Barack Obama's many apologists have explained their lips off telling us how he could not run and cannot govern as president of Black Americans, or the president of Americans neck-deep in consumer debt, or the president of Americans who want an everybody in-nobody out health care system. To get elected and to govern, they wisely assure us, Barack Obama has chosen to be and must be the "president of everybody," if by everybody you mean private health insurers, Wall Street banksters, Pentagon contractors and greedy chambers of commerce everywhere. The president is a grown man, and he gets to make those choices.

So do the rest of us, and on questions pertaining to the Middle East, a Euro-centric place name if ever there was one, every public opinion survey that bothers to differentiate white from black US opinion indicates that African Americans are, in the main, far more sympathetic to the cause of Palestinians than either their white neighbors or their first black president. Barack Obama then, is operating well outside the black consensus on Palestine and Israel, while former Georgia congresswoman Cynthia McKinney swims confidently in the mainstream of black opinion and the prophetic tradition of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Both Obama and McKinney have traveled to the region more than once in the last several months. The president gave a speech in Cairo sternly advising Palestinians to give up violence in pursuit of justice, while seeming to ignore the grossly disproportionate violence, official and unofficial, of the Israeli settler state against them. Obama acknowledged what he called a humanitarian crisis in Gaza without facing his own and the American role in creating that crisis, let alone advancing any measures that would ameliorate it.

��My suitcase,� McKinney told BAR, �was full of crayons. Somebody in authority should explain why crayons and coloring books for Palestinian children are a threat...�

What President Obama calls Gaza's humanitarian crisis is actually a medieval siege, in which Israel, with the full diplomatic and military backing of the US, its principal armorer and banker, has sealed 1.5 million people off from the outside world. For more than two years practically no Palestinians have been permitted to enter Gaza, either from the Israeli-occupied West Bank or elsewhere. Electricity has been cut to a few hours per day and water to a fraction of needed quantities while the Israeli armed forces prohibit Palestinians from purchasing or receiving parts to build, repair or expand capacity. Hundreds of ordinary items needed to carry on civilized life are also banned, including cement, soap, toothpaste, foodstuffs, medical supplies, books, paper clothing and crayons.

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mises



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going with Jesse Jackson! Or Kanye maybe
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ManintheMiddle



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if Kanye or McKinney is more clueless. Certainly McKinney is more obnoxious and needs a good whacking to wake her up to reality. She might be Sharpton's heir apparent, or wishes she could be. She's nothing more than a rabble rouser who gets off on the victimhood mindset and gives genuine civil rights leaders a bad name. She's really not too bright, either, like Shirley Jackson Lee, from Houston, who introduced a bill to honor MJ.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to get my mind around the idea of the 'black community' having a single specific foreign policy vis a vis the Middle East.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The local minister/city councilwoman/businessman/school board member who you've never even heard of/botherd to meet.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
I'm trying to get my mind around the idea of the 'black community' having a single specific foreign policy vis a vis the Middle East.

Ever heard of "consensus" or "average?"
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kabrams



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both and neither.

Christ.
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AliciaJC



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kabrams wrote:
Both and neither.

Christ.


yes. as if two people can represent an entire group of people.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
I'm trying to get my mind around the idea of the 'black community' having a single specific foreign policy vis a vis the Middle East.

Ever heard of "consensus" or "average?"


Yes, it happens that I have. What I don't get is the idea that either have anything to do with this topic. I'll await your enlightenment. (ambiguity deliberate)
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mises



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AliciaJC wrote:
kabrams wrote:
Both and neither.

Christ.


yes. as if two people can represent an entire group of people.


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15297.html
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Fully 96 percent of black voters supported Obama


Yeah, for sure.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought O'Bama was Irish.

You mean to tell me he's black?

Geez, that changes everything. I want my vote for him back!

Rolling Eyes

I disagree with that 96% figure. Not based on what I heard people say who they were going to vote for.

The local homemade political newsletter that i read was authored by a black gentleman and he endorsed Ron Paul. Anyone operating beyond the local level who claims to represent a group of people is talking out of their rear.

Who represents white America? or Latinos? or Asians?

This thread isn't racist, but boy is it borderline ignorant.

Does ATEK/Tony Whatshisface represent foreign teachers? or white people in Korea?
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ReeseDog



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
The local minister/city councilwoman/businessman/school board member who you've never even heard of/botherd to meet.


I've met her. She has quite the following in certain parts of this town.
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mises



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
I thought O'Bama was Irish.

You mean to tell me he's black?

Geez, that changes everything. I want my vote for him back!

Rolling Eyes

I disagree with that 96% figure. Not based on what I heard people say who they were going to vote for.

The local homemade political newsletter that i read was authored by a black gentleman and he endorsed Ron Paul. Anyone operating beyond the local level who claims to represent a group of people is talking out of their rear.

Who represents white America? or Latinos? or Asians?

This thread isn't racist, but boy is it borderline ignorant.

Does ATEK/Tony Whatshisface represent foreign teachers? or white people in Korea?


Oh boo hoo. Racist. Ignorant. Pejoratives, blah blach.

Blacks voted for Obama as their man @96%.

And let's not forget how Ron Paul was derailed. He was labeled a racist by some asshole from Slate. And that was all that was needed. Just like that idiot Harvard "professor". God damn everything is "racist".
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kabrams



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
AliciaJC wrote:
kabrams wrote:
Both and neither.

Christ.


yes. as if two people can represent an entire group of people.


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15297.html
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Fully 96 percent of black voters supported Obama


Yeah, for sure.


How many democrats voted for Obama, might I ask? How many black people are democrats?
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