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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:20 am Post subject: Framingham - Masters in ESL (LOCATED IN KOREA) |
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Anyone look into this program?
It's a MEd (Masters in Education) for ESL. Its accredited American university that sends teachers over to South Korea to teach the Masters degree classes. If you attend 10 classes and do all of the requirements, you can get your MA in two years without having to leave Korea.
Found the website here: http://fscku.wetpaint.com
It's Framingham State College combined with Korea University that makes it possible.
I looked into it a bit, and they had an International Education in the past, but now they are offering one specifically in ESL.
Here is some more info I could find about it: http://www.framingham.edu/dgce/iep/programs.htm#MA
Anyone familiar with Framingham? Or anyone from Massachusetts and knows about this program or this state college?
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jessie-b

Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:25 am Post subject: |
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That sounds awesome. So you can take the 10 courses at Korea University???? Here???
I'm from Massachusetts and my dad lived in Framingham for awhile. Its a small state school from what I can remember. That's really cool that they're developing that program. I'm definitly going to apply...if I don't have to leave Korea |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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jessie-b wrote: |
That sounds awesome. So you can take the 10 courses at Korea University???? Here???
I'm from Massachusetts and my dad lived in Framingham for awhile. Its a small state school from what I can remember. That's really cool that they're developing that program. I'm definitly going to apply...if I don't have to leave Korea |
From what I understand, yes, you can take all 10 classes here in Korea.
You do some pre-reading before the course (probably with homework assignments, etc.) Then the Massachusetts professor flies into Korea and teaches in an actual classroom for 40 hours of classtime.
I read that Framingham has done this in many different locations all around the world. First time in Korea for the MA in ESL, but they had had a MA in International Education here before with the same setup. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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If anyone else is interested, this is the email of the contact person, JAY: [email protected].
From what I understand, orientation will be in September. The program would start a few months later.
jessie-b - Even if you left Korea, you can take classes all over the world at Framingham (including Massachusetts).
Program sites:
http://www.framingham.edu/dgce/iep/sites.htm
Bolivia, Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz Cooperative School
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Brazil, Recife
ELC Idiomas School
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Brazil, Rio de Janeiro
American School of Rio de Janeiro
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Costa Rica, San Jose
Lincoln School
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching,
Master of Education concentration in Teaching ESL
Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
The Ashton School
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
El Salvador, San Salvador
The American School of El Salvador
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Guatemala, Guatemala City
The American School of Guatemala
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Guyana, Georgetown
Georgetown American School
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Honduras, San Pedro Sula
Escuela Internacional Sampedrana
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Italy, Naples
Naples Elementary School on Department of Defense Base
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Korea, Seoul
International School of Seoul
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Kuwait, Kuwait City
The Dasman Model School
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Lebanon, Beirut
American Community School of Beirut
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Mexico, Guadalajara
American School Foundation of Guadalajara
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Mexico, Monterrey
San Roberto Institute
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Nicaragua, Managua
The Lincoln International Academy
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Northern Marianas Islands, Saipan
Northern Marianas College
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Poland, Czestochowa
Poland University
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Taiwan, Taipei
Morrison Academy
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Thailand, Bangkok
KIS International School in Bangkok
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
Venezuela, Maracaibo
Escuela Bella Vista
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
West Indies, Port of Spain Trinidad
International School of Port of Spain
Program offered: Master of Education concentration in International Teaching
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Most of them are for International Teaching...but one is also written for TEFL - Costa Rica, and I'd imagine that is expanding in some of those other locations - as Korea's TEFL isn't mentioned on the website yet. Might be others, if not, there is always Massachussets! |
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The Hierophant

Joined: 13 Sep 2005
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Can any nationality take the course? I'm a New Zealander and will go for my Masters at some stage and I'd much prefer to do so through an American university. |
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hugo_danner

Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Location: korea
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.framingham.edu/dgce/registration.htm
Tuition & Fees Division
Tuition (per 4-credit course)
Undergraduate
$720.00
Graduate
$799.00
Gee, that's only $32,000 (today's tuition, not including price increases!) What a deal for a Masters Degree in a SOLID career like teaching English! Gotta jump on that right away! |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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You have the wrong page. Look at this one:
http://fscku.wetpaint.com/page/Course+Tuition+%26+Fees
It costs $520 a class and there are 10 classes total. Plus $100 admittance fee.
TOTAL TUITION AND FEES: US $5,300.00
The Hierophant - yes, it's open to all nationalities.
Or just confirm with the coordinator, [email protected]. I'm just interested in the program myself, but this is all direct from the website, and I've emailed him as well. |
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jessie-b

Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Do you know if you have to live in Seoul in September to attend the orientation? How long is the orientation? My hagwon contract ends in December and I'd like to start the course as soon as possible. I'll be able to move to Seoul in February when courses begin. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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jessie-b wrote: |
Do you know if you have to live in Seoul in September to attend the orientation? How long is the orientation? My hagwon contract ends in December and I'd like to start the course as soon as possible. I'll be able to move to Seoul in February when courses begin. |
Coordinator's email: [email protected]
As far as I know, its in JOCHIWON. It's a small town between Suwon and Daejeon.
So even if you lived in Seoul, you'd have to take a train down there (about an hour I'd guess by train).
I'd imagine it wouldn't matter where you lived, you could attend the orientation. The courses as well. As from my understanding, each student does the prep work beforehand. Then the professor of the course flies from Massachussets to Jochiwon. He gives approximately 30-40 hours (I'm unsure how much) of lectures either intensively over a long weekend, or during the university/school system breaks - which would be the last few weeks of February and August. Then you'd write some kind of paper afterwards as well.
It seems best setup to those who already have university (or middle school/high school) jobs who'd have a little leeway during February and August. If students are working at a hogwon, hopefully they will be very flexible! If not, try to change jobs during the program and find one that is flexible! Once you had the degree, you'd be set (in my opinion).
If you don't already have a uni/middle school job (that gives you a little extra time during those months - February & August). There are quite a few colleges/unis in Korea outside of Seoul that would hire someone without an MA, etc. Then once you had the MA, you would secure a solid career of uni teaching. (Don't know your specific situation, Jessie-B, but just writing it out for whoever else reads this).
I'm teaching at a university already - 12 hours a week and 5 months of paid vacation. As you can imagine, I'd love to do this for a long time to come. Getting a MA in ESL/TEFL particularly, would really open this up for me to continue doing this for a long time to come. (I already have an unrelated MA which secured me the uni position in Seoul already, but its not enough to secure uni jobs in other countries - I'm looking at Hawaii, Japan, Taiwan, United Arab Emirates, maybe even Brazil - if I had an MA in ESL in particular to teach at other universities anywhere in the world). At $5,300 for the entire program, it's worth it. |
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Fresh Prince

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: The glorious nation of Korea
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:40 am Post subject: |
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I'm interested in this program as well however I'm also a little skeptical about his one:
In the U.S., university representatives do not usually use personal email addresses such as the one being provided by the "coordinator." They also do not advertise off of blogs or personal websites which appears to be the case here.
From the official site all the email address are in this form: [email protected] however on the personal site with the details below the coordinators email address is in this form: [email protected].
http://fscku.wetpaint.com/page/Course+Tuition+%26+Fees?t=anon
EDIT: The contact information listed on the official site for this program is: [email protected] according to the official site however I couldn't find any indication of the cost. |
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cubanlord

Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Location: In Japan!
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:32 am Post subject: |
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Hi Tiger,
Buyers beware. I've looked through the website and maybe it's just me, but, I cannot find this school's accreditation anywhere. Furthermore, it will not be recognized in North America. Therefore, if you are planning on returning home, don't enroll in this program as it may very well mean absolutely nothing (just a little over $5,000USD for a Master's? That in itself should be raising red flags). However, those of you wanting it to mean something outside of North America with no care about what it means in Canada or The States, then it may be okay. I stopped after I saw the price, no accreditation and the fact that this isn't an educational institution (no .edu at the end). Very peculiar indeed.
me. |
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cubanlord

Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Location: In Japan!
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cubanlord

Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Location: In Japan!
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Accreditation by the New England Association is not partial but applies to the institution as a whole. As such, it is not a guarantee of the quality of every course or program offered, or the competence of individual graduates. Rather, it provides reasonable assurance about the quality of opportunities available to students who attend the institution. Inquiries regarding the status of an institution's accreditation by the New England Association should be directed to the administrative staff of the school or college. Individuals may also contact the Association: NEW ENGLAND ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES, 209 Burlington Road, Bedford, Massachusetts, 01730, 781-271-0022. |
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Fresh Prince

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: The glorious nation of Korea
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Accreditation by the New England Association is not partial but applies to the institution as a whole. As such, it is not a guarantee of the quality of every course or program offered, or the competence of individual graduates. Rather, it provides reasonable assurance about the quality of opportunities available to students who attend the institution. Inquiries regarding the status of an institution's accreditation by the New England Association should be directed to the administrative staff of the school or college. Individuals may also contact the Association: NEW ENGLAND ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES, 209 Burlington Road, Bedford, Massachusetts, 01730, 781-271-0022. |
Thanks for the info.
According to the website: http://fscku.wetpaint.com/page/Course+Tuition+%26+Fees
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**All tuition and fees should be paid by cashier's check (송금수표), in US dollars, made payable to "International Education Programs, Inc." |
Is this program not being run by the university but instead a company of some sort? Does that affect whether it is accredited or not? |
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cubanlord

Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Location: In Japan!
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Man, be careful. I was thinking about it a bit more and it just doesn't seem like it's legitimate. If you are taking courses here in a Korean University then you are going to get a Korean degree. Just like the MBA that is offered by (I forgot what university here in Korea) and Saracuse (sp?). You don't get the Saracuse MBA. Rather, you get the MBA from the Korean university with a piece of paper from Saracuse saying you completed the degree in the Korean university. BIG DIFFERENCE. Ask them this question:
Where is the degree from? Korea University or the one in The United States? If the answer if the former, then you may want to re-evaluate what your goals are as some degree programs may be joint, but, the final product is from one university. It's vital that you know from which university you will receive the diploma!
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