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[iggyb]

Nobody else

[bassexpander]

Wow... I probably wouldn't have posted something like this if I hadn't been told I got the job yet... just me.

[iggyb]

I don't understand...? "a post like this" -- ?

What did I say that could be construed as fairly insulting to the college or anybody else?

Knowing where and what you are going to teach are kinda key things to know early on.

With SMOE, they spell out clearly from the start that they won't tell you what level you'll be teaching at even though they do consider your preferences. So, if you go with them, you understand that from the beginning.

If it isn't spelled out like that, however, it would only be natural to expect a prospective employee would want that information...

I don't see how that or the way I phrased it is a "wow".

The school is filling 15 positions, and I know several readers here also applied for a spot, because we've already posted questions and discussion about the position and the interview.

I figure one or two or more of these people were offered a position and would know more about the details of the position.

I was offered a position and emailed the two questions, but I figure I won't hear back from them until Monday at the earliest, and I was hoping to find out sooner...

[bassexpander]

[Canucksaram]

This university recently underwent "unigwonization." A friend of a friend told me all about it and the university is stepping down in the real quality of their English program(s) and there are many interdepartmental shuffles among E-2, F-2 and F-5 staff there, most of whom don't wish to teach dumbed down curricula. Also, the Korean side of teaching/management have disrespected the entire native speaker teacher side of things by going ahead with planning and implementation meetings all in Korean *even though* they are supposed to be fluent enough to conduct such meetings in the language they purport to "teach" to the student body. There are supposed to be 15+ hires for the new English department for this September.

[iggyb]

Did you miss the word "slight"?

You'd have to have a hair trigger on taking offense to jump to the conclusions you did.

I don't even hint that the way the interview went was --- a sign the school is disorganized or poorly run or that they don't care.

Those are some big leaps on your part.

I simply said the interview could have been better from the prospective employee's point of view. -- From their point of view, they were interviewing close to 50 people and kept it short.

You'd have to be pretty thin-skinned to take the kind of offense you are suggesting base on what I wrote, and if the management in a place is that touchy, it probably wouldn't be a good idea to work under them in the first place...

I have enough confidence the people at Chung-Ang are much more professional than that...

[bassexpander]

[iggyb]

I'm still interested in hearing from anyone else who was offered a job (or applied for it) who knows which campus the positions are for?

--- you know, the topic of the thread...

[Young FRANKenstein]

[FUBAR]

I was head-professor for a long time before moving on. And, iggs, if I saw this post, I would have made sure to get you crossed off the list. The last thing the school wants is to have a guy on staff that will constantly post a schools name on the boards . I didn't mind if people would ask questions about the school. But not in the manner you did. While, I understand your frustration, you should learn to watch the manner in how you do so.

You seem to have no problem with what you did, but that's because you are looking at it only from your perspective. Also,it doesn't matter what you think since you are the person looking to get hired and not the other way around..

Best of luck. But, a word of caution. Post wisely should you get the job.

[iggyb]

For the record:

Based on my contact with the Chung-Ang U. people, I have no reason to believe they are anything but professional.

The questions they asked in the interview were the kind you'd expect.

They did not offer follow up questions, and the interview was short, but they had 50 people to interview, and keeping the interview short made sense from their point of view.

It would have helped me, however, if they had asked me if I had any questions, because there are a couple of items concerning the job I need to know about before committing to a contract.

That is all.....

With that said ---Boy, you guys are touchy.

All I said was that not asking the interviewee if they had questions about the position was not a good idea and that if they had done so, some of the confusion could be avoided. I didn't even put it in words that strong. The only specific quote in my short post you can rightfully claim is negative is:

[iggyb]

Think about it like this:

At least two of you would feel it necessary to rescind a job offer to a person you believed had the right experience and qualifications to fill the position you needed filled --- because he wrote on a forum that he wished you had asked him if he had any questions about the job during your brief interview...

Saying "...This is one of the slight issues with how they ran the interview so quick and without asking if I had any questions..."

trumps his educational background and years of experience as a teacher...???...

[bassexpander]

[DCJames]

[Young FRANKenstein]