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Unopened 2004 Cabernet still drinkable?

 
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phoneboothface



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject: Unopened 2004 Cabernet still drinkable? Reply with quote

I got this bottle of 2004 Cabernet S. 2 years ago. It's been stored at room temp. Not sure why I have it and I don't know anything about wine.

Kill me if I drink it? Confused
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alphakennyone



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: city heights

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you dont know much about wine, do you? of course you can drink it. it will only be bad if the cork is faulty and too much oxygen got inside.
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't (most likely?) won't hurt you. If it tastes like vinegar, add some olive oil and dip a baguette in it.
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OneWayTraffic



Joined: 14 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wine keeps for a very long time. Some varieties are improved by it, others not so much.

No problem drinking it at all, unless it's corked as the guy above said. If you have to ask, then it's fine.
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manlyboy



Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corked or capped? If corked then it has to be stored on its side to keep the cork moist.

Has it been in sunlight? That'll kill it like it's Count Dracula.

Most of the world's wine is meant to be consumed within a year of being bottled.

It won't kill you but the flavour has probably been reduced to the state of Korean Majuang by now.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

manlyboy wrote:
It won't kill you but the flavour has probably been reduced to the state of Korean Majuang by now.


Majuang might say Korean on the label, but it's made in California. It's not half bad really. The worst is the genuinely Korean stuff, comes in a smaller bottle. Jinro makes it I think. The name is just "House Wine" or some such.
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manlyboy



Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underwaterbob wrote:
manlyboy wrote:
It won't kill you but the flavour has probably been reduced to the state of Korean Majuang by now.


Majuang might say Korean on the label, but it's made in California. It's not half bad really. The worst is the genuinely Korean stuff, comes in a smaller bottle. Jinro makes it I think. The name is just "House Wine" or some such.


Interesting. I can see why Californian wineries wouldn't want their state's name on the label, though.
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Summer Wine



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Interesting. I can see why Californian wineries wouldn't want their state's name on the label, though.


Ditto that. LOL, yeah I would be keeping that a secret as well.
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Clockout



Joined: 23 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the best places to buy wine in Korea?

Emart/Kim's club prices are absurd but maybe that's still the best option.
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climber159



Joined: 02 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fancy department stores have wine sales a fairly regular basis. I picked up a few decent wines for under 10,000KRW and a couple very good wines for under 30,000KRW at Lotte Department Store.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clockout wrote:
What are the best places to buy wine in Korea?

Emart/Kim's club prices are absurd but maybe that's still the best option.


Emart and homeplus have some decent aussie and south american wines for around 10,000

kims club and lotte mart are both more expensive
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awong004



Joined: 06 Jul 2009
Location: USA

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drink it! I would drink it.
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Chambertin



Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: Gunsan

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cabs live for up to 30 years regularly. (from date on bottle or vintage)

Really good ones can live for hundreds of years, but I can�t afford to sip the bad ones of that caliber. Even those lose max taste value earlier than they will retain monetary worth.
Good rule of thumb is when you want to drink it do so. Smell the cork if it smells like old wet newspaper then the wine might be bad, but taste it and see.
The crap that gets into wine at the winery is generally neutral to humans.
It does make the wine taste like utter crap though.

If it was opened and re-corked then it won�t last a week on taste. Again food borne illness is low, but much more possible this way.

If it�s a 2004 and you let it rest on its own agenda it should be good.

Cabs are like a roller coaster they enter exciting stages and then other stages when they are dormant waiting for the chain to pull them back to the top. The chemicals in them are always active, and safe but not always tasty.

I spent some time in the wine industry and will leave the detail at that before I begin a 30 page rant that no one wanted to hear.
Feel free to ask for more detail as I foam at the mouth to talk about it.

(EDIT): Wine info rabies kickin in
I will say one thing as a link to the roller coaster analogy: No one wants to just go over random bumps all day, If they cant run the same fun course year round they want to ease into the turns and have a few fun spins.

When you store wine the most important thing is consistency of temperature. If you can�t do that make sure the changes are gradual and predictable, not jagged and random. This is for taste preservation.
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cuvycuv



Joined: 24 Apr 2009
Location: Siji (Daegu), South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On July 25th www.theoneonefour.com is running a story on wine in Korea. Check it out for reviews of some of the best bottles under w30 000
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winelover



Joined: 25 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:28 am    Post subject: Wine Storage and Aging Reply with quote

Chambertin wrote:


When you store wine the most important thing is consistency of temperature. If you can�t do that make sure the changes are gradual and predictable, not jagged and random. This is for taste preservation.


As Chamertin points out the consistency of temperature is important. If it has been stored right, now might be the best time to open it. Depends on many thing such as where its from, if it's a blend or pure Cabernet, terroir, etc. Room temp in Korea means too hot in summer and too cold in winter usually. Sunlight is also a killer. Smell the cork for cork taint, a mouldy wet newspaper smell.

A regular fridge will keep wines for about a year before the corks start to dry out. Best to buy a wine fridge. They cost about 2 million won in Korea/

This year I found a La Demoiselle Brut Grande Cuvee Vranken NV 2004 on sale in Lotte Dept for 44,000 won. Beautiful after aging.

Cheers,

Joshua Hall
http://winekorea.blogspot.com/
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