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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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 Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:54 am Post subject: U.S. gov't deliberately poisoned alcohol during prohibition |
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More evidence that the federal government cares nothing about protecting the public, and has long been willing to resort to murderous criminal acts and terrorism to keep the American people in line.
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The Chemist's War: The little-told story of how the U.S. government poisoned alcohol during Prohibition with deadly consequences.
By Deborah Blum
[...]Frustrated that people continued to consume so much alcohol even after it was banned, federal officials had decided to try a different kind of enforcement. They ordered the poisoning of industrial alcohols manufactured in the United States, products regularly stolen by bootleggers and resold as drinkable spirits. The idea was to scare people into giving up illicit drinking. Instead, by the time Prohibition ended in 1933, the federal poisoning program, by some estimates, had killed at least 10,000 people.
[...] The saga began with ratification of the 18th Amendment, which banned sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages in the United States. High-minded crusaders and anti-alcohol organizations had helped push the amendment through in 1919, playing on fears of moral decay in a country just emerging from war. The Volstead Act, spelling out the rules for enforcement, passed shortly later, and Prohibition itself went into effect on Jan. 1, 1920.
[...] To sell the stolen industrial alcohol, the liquor syndicates employed chemists to "renature" the products, returning them to a drinkable state. The bootleggers paid their chemists a lot more than the government did, and they excelled at their job. Stolen and redistilled alcohol became the primary source of liquor in the country. So federal officials ordered manufacturers to make their products far more deadly.
[...]By mid-1927, the new denaturing formulas included some notable poisons�kerosene and brucine (a plant alkaloid closely related to strychnine), gasoline, benzene, cadmium, iodine, zinc, mercury salts, nicotine, ether, formaldehyde, chloroform, camphor, carbolic acid, quinine, and acetone. The Treasury Department also demanded more methyl alcohol be added�up to 10 percent of total product. It was the last that proved most deadly.
The results were immediate, starting with that horrific holiday body count in the closing days of 1926. Public health officials responded with shock. "The government knows it is not stopping drinking by putting poison in alcohol," New York City medical examiner Charles Norris said at a hastily organized press conference. "[Y]et it continues its poisoning processes, heedless of the fact that people determined to drink are daily absorbing that poison. Knowing this to be true, the United States government must be charged with the moral responsibility for the deaths that poisoned liquor causes, although it cannot be held legally responsible."
Norris also condemned the federal program for its disproportionate effect on the country's poorest residents. Wealthy people, he pointed out, could afford the best whiskey available. Most of those sickened and dying were those "who cannot afford expensive protection and deal in low grade stuff."
And the numbers were not trivial. In 1926, in New York City, 1,200 were sickened by poisonous alcohol; 400 died. The following year, deaths climbed to 700. These numbers were repeated in cities around the country as public-health officials nationwide joined in the angry clamor. |
http://www.slate.com/id/2245188/pagenum/all/ |
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Street Magic
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:59 am Post subject: |
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I think I see a modern parallel.
I'm amazed at how not ridiculous these libertarian grievances have begun to sound to me lately. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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I know right? Assassinations of citizens, torture, illegal wars, a bought government. BC forces citizens to use socialized medical care then cuts services related to, and takes the money to build stadiums. etc. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| A good example of what can happen when you allow the morally righteous right to have power. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| They poisoned marijuana fields too in the 70's |
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Street Magic
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| They poisoned marijuana fields too in the 70's |
Yup:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraquat
And I forgot to mention in my first post that acetaminophen (Tylenol) is added in sizable doses to prescription opioid painkillers (Percocet, Vicodin) for the explicit purpose of "deterring abuse." There's never been a study that's supported the notion that adding Tylenol can increase the efficacy of prescription opioids and it would be nonsensical to prohibit the prescription of said opioids in their unadulterated form if it were just a matter of superior efficacy, so the other stated purpose of "deterring abuse" is pretty clearly the sole motive that made this happen.
Anyone want to guess how Tylenol "deters abuse?" If you don't already know, prepare to be completely disgusted. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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If you overdose it can destroy your liver.
several years back during a flu bout, I took more Ibuprofen than the instructions say to, because the dosage just wasn't working enough. I ended out spending 8 days in the hospital while the doctors tried to find out where i was bleeding. They had to clamp and cauterize an artery in my stomach because of the fact I took more than the recommended dosage. I received 6 pints of blood during my stay. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| A good example of what can happen when you allow the morally righteous right to have power. |
Like those who accuse others of being "morally bankrupt"? |
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Street Magic
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| If you overdose it can destroy your liver. |
Not only can Tylenol do this; it's the undisputed leading cause of this (this being liver failure).
| young_clinton wrote: |
| several years back during a flu bout, I took more Ibuprofen than the instructions say to, because the dosage just wasn't working enough. I ended out spending 8 days in the hospital while the doctors tried to find out where i was bleeding. They had to clamp and cauterize an artery in my stomach because of the fact I took more than the recommended dosage. I received 6 pints of blood during my stay. |
I would love a mind reading device, a baseball bat, and a day alone with some of the people responsible for (or who knowingly went along with) the idea that a bunch of largely ineffective yet incredibly dangerous pharmaceuticals ought to be legitimized as over the counter headache candy while the absurdly perfect safety track record and multipurpose efficacy of cannabis ought to be dismissed due to its stigma as an easily grown and readily available plant that people actually enjoy.
This is one of the blatantly valid cases around today for revolting against the establishment for reals. The other I can think of off the top of my head is the continued neglect of car safety thanks to the convenient scapegoats of "drunk/distracted/young/old/bad at not killing others" drivers. Why are people willing to tolerate all the regularly occurring car accidents so long as they can figure out if a particular driver did something wrong? Your susceptibility to maiming and death shouldn't hinge on the proficiency of every other driver you get near.
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I know right? Assassinations of citizens, torture, illegal wars, a bought government. BC forces citizens to use socialized medical care then cuts services related to, and takes the money to build stadiums. etc. |
I think I'm about ready to seriously entertain the false flag interpretation of 9/11.
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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^ Add corn subsidies etc. And the high-carb food pyramid. And the DSM.
Hey, so, if no Tylenol, what do I take to rid myself of a hangover. My job drug tests, so no weed for me. |
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Street Magic
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| ^ Add corn subsidies etc. And the high-carb food pyramid. |
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/low-residue-diet/my00745
Lots of whole grains, vegetables, and fiber in general are apparently great until you start bleeding out your totally not herbivorous intestines, at which point it's recommended that you consume these:
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Milk, yogurt, pudding, ice cream, and cream-based soups and sauces (strained)
Tender meat, poultry, fish and eggs
Oil, margarine, butter and mayonnaise |
While avoiding these:
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Whole-grain breads, cereals and pasta
Whole vegetables and vegetable sauces
Whole fruits, including canned fruits |
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| And the DSM. |
http://www.dsm5.org/ProposedRevisions/Pages/proposedrevision.aspx?rid=412
"Psychosis Risk Syndrome" is now an actual diagnosis in the revised DSM. You can be prescribed antipsychotics now for seeming like you might at some point become psychotic.
And to help us along with any compliance issues, there are now long-acting antipsychotic injections on the market that continue to restrain your neurological processes up to two months following one dose.
EDIT: The antipsychotic link seems to randomly put up a pay wall. Here's another link referencing the same topic:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/150673.php
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| Hey, so, if no Tylenol, what do I take to rid myself of a hangover. My job drug tests, so no weed for me. |
Aspirin's probably the safest mainstream OTC pharmaceutical, although it can also cause reduced clotting/uncontrolled bleeding like what Young Clinton recounted with his Ibuprofen experience.
Anecdotally, I'm always surprised at how well simply drinking lots of water during and after any alcohol indulgences seems to take care of that problem. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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For years I took gut pills for acid reflux. My Singaporean dr said "don't eat wheat or sugar". I stopped. Pain stopped. After a decade of those damn pills. It was wheat and sugar. Thousands of dollars blown.
Now I eat meat and veggies. Lots of butter. Hoards of animal fat. I'm in perfect health (weight, blood pressure, sleeping). Since I started taking fistfulls of vitamin d and eating whole pigs for breakfast my body has become more lean, more strong, more robust. I haven't had a cold in years.
But what about my heart?
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/ajcn.2009.27725v1
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| Conclusions: A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD. More data are needed to elucidate whether CVD risks are likely to be influenced by the specific nutrients used to replace saturated fat. |
Oh.
The DSM is evil. Did you read Selling the DSM? It's incredible. The medicalization of emotion and non-mean behaviour. Disgusting.
Shall we talk about vitamin d now?
A large dose of vitamin d will be more effective against the regular flu and likely swine flu. And all cancers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GM0CnO6-ds&feature=player_embedded
There is a large body of evidence that vitamin d will prevent the flu. I take 5,000iu a day and haven't been sick since I started (3 years or so).
http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=vitamin-d-deficiency-linked-to-more-2009-02-23
Vitamin d deficiency is also being blamed for the rise in autism (a peer-reviewed study from 5 Harvard researchers was the most recent).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19699591?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
Vitamin d also dramatically decreases the rate of cancer.
http://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/newsrel/health/05-09VitaD.asp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GM0CnO6-ds
http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Nutrition/Vitamins/important_new_vitamin_d_research_papers_311220091240.html
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| A large-scale, randomized, placebo-controlled study on vitamin D and cancer showed that vitamin D can cut overall cancer risk by as much as 60 percent |
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17556697?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=1
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jSFWbotYcNkdql2yIZjmOhr-xtOQ
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| Vitamin D deficiency linked to death from all causes: study |
Hell, I just solved the health care crisis. Have fewer sick people as a consequence of policy. But policy isn't mean to create less sickness. Sickness is revenue.
We are a deeply corrupt civilization. We're completely lost. Dead drunk on lies and platitudes. I do not trust anything that comes out of the establishment. So much.. Exaggeration of AIDS. The lipid hypothesis. Statins. Flu vaccines. Fiat currency. Central banks more secretive than the KGB. Bailouts. The food pyramid. Liberal arts degrees. And, global warming. At the center of every scam is government. Government, government, government.
Oh, and the CIA actually did dump crack in the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_drug_trafficking |
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mateomiguel
Joined: 16 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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and the Kennedy assassination... and Flouride in the water... and the moon landing was faked... and what else? Its hard to remember.
The government is always evil, lying and monstrous, and your neighbor's anecdotal evidence or the stuff you hear in bars is always pure spun silver handed down from the Moon Goddess on the winter solstice. I got it. Please, lets move on. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Ok. I strongly encourage you to eat a high carb diet. Wear lots of sun screen on those few days you're brave enough to risk skin cancer and leave the house. Get a masters in sociology and finance it all. If you feel sad, take some pills (you're depressed). Get a vaccine for every new and improved Worst Epidemic Ever. Fear WMD's in Ira(q)(n). Etc. After all, blah blah moon landing blah blah. Right?
At some point all thinking people have to accept that we live in an age of Big Lies. No? Can an argument against this even be made anymore? |
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RufusW
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| At the center of every scam is government. Government, government, government. |
Private enterprise and individuals also do some bad things. The quality of government is the problem, not the size. |
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