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F-4 Visa issue (Naturalization Cert.)

 
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JC VT



Joined: 02 Jul 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:55 am    Post subject: F-4 Visa issue (Naturalization Cert.) Reply with quote

My father can't find his Naturalization Certificate, is there any way around this? The lady at the Washington D.C. embassy seems to think that my father's passport, SSN, etc isn't proof of his US Citizenship.

We literally have everything else: hojuk, and ALL documents for my mother, including her Naturalization Cert. I have several copies of my birth certificate, passport, and head-shot photographs. This one hurdle is irritating me to no end, especially since it takes a year + $380 to replace my dad's certificate.
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:10 am    Post subject: Re: F-4 Visa issue (Naturalization Cert.) Reply with quote

JC VT wrote:
My father can't find his Naturalization Certificate, is there any way around this? The lady at the Washington D.C. embassy seems to think that my father's passport, SSN, etc isn't proof of his US Citizenship.

We literally have everything else: hojuk, and ALL documents for my mother, including her Naturalization Cert. I have several copies of my birth certificate, passport, and head-shot photographs. This one hurdle is irritating me to no end, especially since it takes a year + $380 to replace my dad's certificate.


To Korean's the mom's side isn't as important. Unless your dad's not Korean. Your only option is to call Immigration and see if you can get a replacement rushed to you. The Naturalization Certificate is a really important document. More than a passport. I'm surprised he lost it.

Actually there might be another way. Has he ever been to Korea for an extended time? If he has a Korean ARC card even if its expired. A Photocopy of that that is proof that he gave up citizenship.
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JC VT



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently he sent it in to the US State Dept to get his passport and never received it back. This was 10 years ago. I don't think he just lost it... he's annoyingly meticulous about paper-work.

He doesn't have an ARC either; the last time he was in Korea for an extended period was like 24 years ago, before he became an American Citizen.

Am I screwed? I already have an offer and am ready to sign a contract. Could I go an work on a US passport while all of this is in processing?
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djbeans



Joined: 15 Jul 2009
Location: US

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would call the consulate and check to see if you can just use your mom's information (granted that the hojuk you have has your mom on it). it shouldn't be a problem since both your parents should be on the birth certificate that you're going to be submitting as well.
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SFValley



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djbeans wrote:
i would call the consulate and check to see if you can just use your mom's information (granted that the hojuk you have has your mom on it). it shouldn't be a problem since both your parents should be on the birth certificate that you're going to be submitting as well.


Yeah, I would try to go through just your mom. I thought I had read on here once about a person who's mother was Korean (dad was something else) and that person qualified for an F4 so I can't see why you can't do the same by just going off of your mother's documents.
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JC VT



Joined: 02 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just checked with the Consulate in Atlanta and they said my mom's info is all that is needed.

Hopefully they D.C. Consulate feels the same way. They told my dad that they needed BOTH my parents' info before moving forward with an F-4...
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SFValley



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JC VT wrote:
Just checked with the Consulate in Atlanta and they said my mom's info is all that is needed.

Hopefully they D.C. Consulate feels the same way. They told my dad that they needed BOTH my parents' info before moving forward with an F-4...


Great! Good luck!
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When he got his naturalization certificate, the first thing it says to do is to get your passport because this will be the first proof you have of your citizenship that you can carry.

But that's for in the States. For immigration to another country, I don't know. Tell the lady that the passport clearly says that your father's nationality is American. As for the SS card, that is worthless. Even temporary residents/workers can get SS cards. That has nothing to do with your citizenship, just with working.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JC VT:
Have you checked your draft status in South Korean Army? If you are on F-4 visa always check that!
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amoonbot



Joined: 29 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are not on the Hojuk or family registry in Korea, you are not in line for the South Korean army.
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JC VT



Joined: 02 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should be good to go now!

One final question... I realized that I have 10 months left on my passport; is this going to be a problem? I could probably have a renewal rushed, but I'd rather do it after I land in Korea.
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iisabrane



Joined: 24 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can renew the passport at the US embassy in Korea but the embassy usually keeps the old passport. This would mean you would have to get the F-4 visa stamp again (I think). If possible, I would just rush the passport and have the Visa put on the new one.
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JC VT wrote:
I should be good to go now!

One final question... I realized that I have 10 months left on my passport; is this going to be a problem? I could probably have a renewal rushed, but I'd rather do it after I land in Korea.


They usually require at least 6 months left on your passport, which would give you plenty of time to get a new one. So, 10 months should be good.
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