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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 9:07 pm    Post subject: cancelling your e2 Reply with quote

I have my letter of release and a new job. But I'm not a 100% sure on the process of cancelling your e2. My employer, mucked up this on a former co-worker of mine and I want to avoid some of the problems he did.

As I understand it, she has to cancel the visa and then all I do is hand in my arc when I leave. Is there anyway to check that she's done it properly?

anyway if anyone has any experience in doing this, it would be great to hear from you.
thanks in advance,
clg
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can call and ask ....

But yes, there is a technicality in the process in which you are supposed to, by process, go to Immigration WITH your employer and he cancels your visa, cancels your contract and you turn in your ARC and thus receive your 2 week exit order. That's the proper way for a visa and your employment to be cancelled. It's rarely done that way; as in my case.

If you do not go Immigration with your employer you are then required to go to Immigration to turn in your ARC and obtain your exit order.

There is an incorrect assumption that you ONLY have 2 weeks to leave after your visa in canceled. The one loophole on that is as I stated above. If you go to Immigration to do your part on your own you then get your two weeks to do that process from the day your visa in canceled and then you obtain your two week exit order, so you could, in practice obtain 30 days to leave the country
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got someone to call and ask. apparently all I have to do is hand in my arc on depature.

but I can't re-enter the country. I have a second passport which i can travel on though.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's why I'm specific on how I say things (or type them rather).

I say TECHNICALLY, LEGALLY, etc about how things occur. That is the proper process so that your visa and contract are cancelled in such a way to allow you to be legal to come back to get another visa and the like.

Yes, you can simply leave, there is no hindrance on that. You can go to the airport, say you're leaving, hand over your ARC, have your visa stamped as cancelled and you're off ....

The issue is with being proper to not impede a subsequent visa application process
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But yes, there is a technicality in the process in which you are supposed to, by process, go to Immigration WITH your employer and he cancels your visa, cancels your contract and you turn in your ARC and thus receive your 2 week exit order. That's the proper way for a visa and your employment to be cancelled. It's rarely done that way; as in my case.

The two week notification period is when the employer notifies immigration that you are no longer working for that institution. They are required to do this within 24 hours of you leaving. Most do not abide by this law and immigration is very lenient on policing it. If you have not done as is stated above, which is correct, then you just hand in you ARC when you leave. You do not need a second passport to re-enter, just come back in on your primary one. I know of an instance when an employer failed to advise immigartion and the teacher in question returned three times on the E2 visa and that particular individual, as well as the employer are in serious trouble with immigration.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I said the same thing. You however quoted me and didn't mention the fact that, or reply to the quote issue, in that the process is the technical requirement for your visa and contract to be cancelled appropriately to meet the technical requirements for being released and thus eligible for new employment/visa issuance. Turning your ARC, in and of itself, doesn't technically cancel your Visa so as to allow a new visa certificate
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blindsheep



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:11 am    Post subject: Leaving legally without a letter of release Reply with quote

I've been following this thread and I just wanted to clarify something not mentioned or not understood by me. If you have not obtained a letter of release from your employer, may you still legally quit your job with sufficient notice (30 days?) and then be permitted to find legal work at another school in Korea?

Will you cancelling your E2 cause difficulties in you getting the next job?
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:36 am    Post subject: Re: Leaving legally without a letter of release Reply with quote

blindsheep wrote:
I've been following this thread and I just wanted to clarify something not mentioned or not understood by me. If you have not obtained a letter of release from your employer, may you still legally quit your job with sufficient notice (30 days?) and then be permitted to find legal work at another school in Korea?

Will you cancelling your E2 cause difficulties in you getting the next job?


As far as I understand it, no. To get out of a contract and cancel your visa, you must have a letter of release. If you do not, your only option is to leave and wait for your visa to run out before you can get another one.

As for the second question, you cannot cancel your E2 without a letter of release, so it's a moot point.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, you can give notice and quit, and all the labor boards and legal people recommend you give 60 days notice ... but that in no way negates the need for a letter of release and cancellation of your contract with immigration ... it's required, period. If you don't get it then you are required to wait until your visa expires, e.g., the full one year term.
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Upon completion of my and my wife's tenure at our previous hogwan, we went to Ulsan immigration with the director of the institute and he completed all the necessary paperwork to cancel our E2's. We then handed in our ARC's and were issued an exit order. We handed those to immigration in Busan when we left for Japan. We did not obtain a letter of release and have not required a letter of release to secure our new positions. Immigration did not require them when our new director applied for our blue papers. Who knows what will happen?
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humanuspneumos



Joined: 08 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:43 am    Post subject: I came back early once Reply with quote

I came back early once under another E-2 before the first expired (yes- I too handed in my card, bla, bla, bla).

I was pleasantly surprised that I got the confirmation in the first place and just continued on with no problems. It led me to believe that the argument of provincialism (each province deals with things differently) is true inspite of people talking about how the system is all tied together under one computer. Perhaps my next employer had friends in immigration.
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lonelyontherok: please accept my apologies for failing to quote you when I used your information. Smile
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sadsac wrote:
Upon completion of my and my wife's tenure at our previous hogwan, we went to Ulsan immigration with the director of the institute and he completed all the necessary paperwork to cancel our E2's. We then handed in our ARC's and were issued an exit order. We handed those to immigration in Busan when we left for Japan. We did not obtain a letter of release and have not required a letter of release to secure our new positions. Immigration did not require them when our new director applied for our blue papers. Who knows what will happen?


But you did get a letter of release. You said that the director went to immigration with you and "completed all the necessary paperwork" to cancel the visa. That's exactly what a letter of release is: It's your boss telling immigration that you are released from your contract and are free to go. In your case, the actual physical "letter" was not required because instead of writing the letter to immigration, your boss went there in person.
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noelinkorea



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: Shinchon, Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:23 pm    Post subject: work vs study visa Reply with quote

I am considering quitting my job in a few months. My question is, if I cancel my E2 visa can I get a study visa just as easily or will the original period of the work visa interfere with this? Has anyone had experience in changing from a work to a study visa?
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