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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:05 am    Post subject: visiting San Francisco Reply with quote

Being an East Coast gal, I don't get the opportunity to visit the West Coast. On my way home from Korea in a month, I will stop by San Fran to visit my dad, who moved there a few years ago.

I'm not a person that enjoys tourist attractions, so I am looking for some things WAY off the beaten path. I'm talking things of antiquities...old bookstores, hole-in-the-wall places, etc. NOT Haight-Ashbury or beat poet stuff. I want to eat good lobster and crab. I like nature,wine/beer/liquor/cigars, books, motown and old jazz, silent films, art.

Recommend interesting places to me! If there is a touristy thing you feel I MUST see, I'll take it into consideration Smile
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nob Hill, for antiquities, Fishermen's Wharf, for fun and seafood, and The Presidio, one of the most valuable pieces of real estate in the U.S., if not THE most--rivals Manhattan island.

"The 24th Street area is the culturally rich heart of the Mission." Culture and authentic Mexican food... num num num!


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climber159



Joined: 02 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for a stroll/jog/bike ride through Golden Gate Park. It's got some beautiful gardens and a great view of the Bay without many people around. Definitely go to Chinatown despite the crowds...it's worth it.

And, yeah...Haight-Ashbury blows. I felt like I needed a shower after walking through all the scuzzy people there.
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Not Korea

PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John's Grill: Where Dashiel Hammet wrote The Maltese Falcon. Great for steak, seafood and music.

Rasputins: 4 or 5 floors of music and movies.

Yerba Buena Park

SF Playhouse for Theater
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benji



Joined: 21 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fort Point. Under the Golden Gate Bridge. Civil War era army fort. Well preserved with great views of the Pacific Ocean.
Misssion Dolores. 16th and Dolores streets. Spanish mission from the days when Spain ruled California.
West end of Golden Gate Park. Windmills and bison.
Boat ride to Alcatraz. A lot of tourists but well worth it especially if the weather is good.
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MissLady717



Joined: 04 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

id hop on the bart and go to telegraph in berkeley if i were you. the whole street is what youre looking for.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a minor point, but tourists seem compelled to ride the streetcar. It's always jammed and there's always a long wait. If you walk upwards for a block there are streetcar-shaped buses that take a similar route. It's a touristy thing to do, but the sights are worth seeing on a ride.

Ken:>
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climber159



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just in San Francisco yesterday. I walked past the cable car turning point and silently laughed at all the idiots waiting in the line for a ride. I walked about Chinatown and felt a bit like I was back in Korea fighting my way through Namdaemun on a busy day. Then I had a delicious panini and beer at a tiny Italian deli as I pretended to be a local and watch the silly tourists waddle by.
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cwflaneur



Joined: 04 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kikomom wrote:
Nob Hill, for antiquities, Fishermen's Wharf, for fun and seafood, and The Presidio, one of the most valuable pieces of real estate in the U.S., if not THE most--rivals Manhattan island.

"The 24th Street area is the culturally rich heart of the Mission." Culture and authentic Mexican food... num num num!


Avoid Fisherman's Wharf AT ALL COSTS... yuck. Do that and you can hardly go wrong with SF.
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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cwflaneur wrote:


Avoid Fisherman's Wharf AT ALL COSTS... yuck.


Why?
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cwflaneur



Joined: 04 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MollyBloom wrote:
cwflaneur wrote:


Avoid Fisherman's Wharf AT ALL COSTS... yuck.


Why?


Well, to put it as briefly as I can, it's a tacky, off-putting tourist trap. It's where the city sends the "dumb" kind of hick tourists so they don't have to have them roaming about anywhere else. Why visit the most beautiful city in North America just to spend time in its most tacky, dull, commercialised armpit? You'll feel like you just went to Lotte World, only without all the fun stuff ; )

What's wrong with it? A better question would be "what's not wrong with it".

There's no shortage of restaurants in other neighborhoods where good seafood can be found.

It does have the Musee Mecanique, though, which is a blast. A museum collection of coin-operated mechanical musical instruments and antique arcade machines - all of which can still be played. That's the only cool thing in Fisherman's Wharf that I know of. So, ok, go there.
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Avoid Fisherman's Wharf AT ALL COSTS... yuck.


Agreed. The area from Cupid's Span near the Oakland Bay Bridge, around to Fisherman's Wharf, has a whole heap of cheaper, seafood places along the Embarkedero, that are not overwhelmed with tourists.

Marin Headland at sunset is also quite nice.

http://beta.trekearth.com/members/ChrisJ/photos/North_America/United_States/West/California/

http://www.treklens.com/members/chrisJ/photos/North_America/United_States/West/California/
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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cwflaneur wrote:
MollyBloom wrote:
cwflaneur wrote:


Avoid Fisherman's Wharf AT ALL COSTS... yuck.


Why?


Well, to put it as briefly as I can, it's a tacky, off-putting tourist trap. It's where the city sends the "dumb" kind of hick tourists so they don't have to have them roaming about anywhere else. Why visit the most beautiful city in North America just to spend time in its most tacky, dull, commercialised armpit? You'll feel like you just went to Lotte World, only without all the fun stuff ; )

What's wrong with it? A better question would be "what's not wrong with it".

There's no shortage of restaurants in other neighborhoods where good seafood can be found.

It does have the Musee Mecanique, though, which is a blast. A museum collection of coin-operated mechanical musical instruments and antique arcade machines - all of which can still be played. That's the only cool thing in Fisherman's Wharf that I know of. So, ok, go there.


Well, that's good advice. As I said, I want to avoid tourists things as much as I can. I know someone mentioned Nob Hill, and actually my dad lives there, so I will be walking around there a lot. However, since I love old things, I think that Musee Mecanique wouuld be right up my alley. But, I will see it and leave that place as much as I can!
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, SF, my birthplace. How I love that city.

Anyway, be sure to spend some time at China Beach--relatively unknown with a fantastic view. Very relaxing.

Also, grab some grub at the SF House of Prime Rib.
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, visit the California Academy of Sciences.

Sure, it might not be match the description of what you're looking for, but it was recently rebuilt and is supposed to be amazing. I used to go there all the time when I was a kid. There is supposedly a rain forest on the top level!

Also, it's right next to the Asian Art Museum.
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