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| God, as humans know It, is an Alien! |
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| i'd go anywhere, anytime, any place with your alien, handsome ass, boy next door... |
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| you're a neurotic psychopath that needs to be hospitalized, TBND! |
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| i once had sex with an alien and now my baby can read minds... |
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the boy next door
Joined: 08 Jun 2008
Location: next door
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 Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:32 am Post subject: do you believe in life on other planets? |
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do you believe in UFOs and/or life on other planets? 
it may mean absolutely zilch to you, but to me, to me, it means everything... |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:32 am Post subject: |
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Read Life Everywhere by David Darling (an astronomer who debunks the Rare Earth Hypothesis).
In the observed universe, the number of planets and moons containing intelligent life is - at the most ridiculously, stupidly cautious estimates - likely somewhere in the trillions.
The average distance between them is estimated to be 500 light years. |
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Tundra_Creature
Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:42 am Post subject: |
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I believe that there are life on other planets and that there are aliens.
I doubt that any of them came to visit earth though or want to eat us... yet. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| I am an alien and when I worked in China I even had a big purple alien registration card to prove it. My arc card in Korea does not live up to that big alien card. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| Tundra_Creature wrote: |
I believe that there are life on other planets and that there are aliens.
I doubt that any of them came to visit earth though... |
I think so too.
of course the odds are there's plenty of life out there on planets with the right conditions and incidents to foster its development
what really is against the odds, is the unlikely chance of a lifeform coming to earth about that time in earth's history that the most advanced technological lifeform here has just discovered flight and dreams of flying into space - what a coincidence, what timing!
and let's forget the absurd 'they're hiding here' idea
the whole topic is silly |
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AgentM
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: British Columbia, Canada
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:41 am Post subject: |
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There has to be life on other planets. The idea that life would only arise on Earth is ridiculous, and very human-centric (religion pushed that idea because it made humanity feel special, and helped the creationist argument).
Re: UFOs, I suspect that there are likely aliens visiting us. I don't mean to sound like a crackpot, and it's certainly not a concern of mine on a daily basis. However, I think that there has been far far too much unexplained phenomena for it all to be natural or made up (although I'm sure there's some of that going on too). The problem is that it's the crazy nutjobs that go on the radio seeking attention that give this idea a bad name. There have been some very reliable people that have reported UFOs, cops, fighter pilots, etc; all the sightings can't be military experimental aircraft... |
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Tundra_Creature
Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:19 am Post subject: |
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You are an old crackpot. 
Nah, obviously I kid. I haven't quite decided what I think of those UFOs yet though. I mean, yeah, they're weird, but I haven't decided whether not they're really alien-aliens.
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Have you played Dead Space? A bunch of people in that game thought that life on Earth was just a scientific fluke. They got lucky that the earth could have life on it. I thought that was an interesting concept actually.
Of course, that was before they got their faces eaten by zombie-aliens, so that was the end of that debate.
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Stewz
Joined: 06 Jul 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:47 am Post subject: |
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AgentM
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: British Columbia, Canada
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| Tundra_Creature wrote: |
You are an old crackpot.
Nah, obviously I kid. I haven't quite decided what I think of those UFOs yet though. I mean, yeah, they're weird, but I haven't decided whether not they're really alien-aliens. |
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[nerdtalk]
Have you played Dead Space? A bunch of people in that game thought that life on Earth was just a scientific fluke. They got lucky that the earth could have life on it. I thought that was an interesting concept actually.
Of course, that was before they got their faces eaten by zombie-aliens, so that was the end of that debate.
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No I haven't played that. The appearance of zombies (or in this case, aliens) always seems to have a way of ending debates doesn't it? lol  |
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Tundra_Creature
Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada
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| Well, you can't argue when your tongue has been pulled out. XD Maybe that's why they're so good at winning debates. |
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AgentM
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: British Columbia, Canada
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| Tundra_Creature wrote: |
| Well, you can't argue when your tongue has been pulled out. XD Maybe that's why they're so good at winning debates. |
True, they do have something of an unfair advantage.  |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| I believe in the probability of life on other planets. |
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friendoken
Joined: 19 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I can't believe this is the only life out there...intelligent or otherwise! I also believe in UFO's. Even if 99.99% of the stories are explainable, that still leaves some. As mentioned, far to many very reliable professionals have put their careers on the line with stories about UFO's. I know one or two myself, both military pilots. |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| friendoken wrote: |
| I can't believe this is the only life out there...intelligent or otherwise! I also believe in UFO's. Even if 99.99% of the stories are explainable, that still leaves some. As mentioned, far to many very reliable professionals have put their careers on the line with stories about UFO's. I know one or two myself, both military pilots. |
Indeed. Like this:
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U.S. pilot was ordered to shoot down UFO
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081020/...uk_britain_ufo
By Peter Griffiths � Mon Oct 20, 10:32 am ET
LONDON (Reuters) � Two U.S. fighter planes were scrambled and ordered to shoot down an unidentified flying object (UFO) over the English countryside during the Cold War, according to secret files made public on Monday.
One pilot said he was seconds away from firing 24 rockets at the object, which moved erratically and gave a radar reading like "a flying aircraft carrier."
The pilot, Milton Torres, now 77 and living in Miami, said it spent periods motionless in the sky before reaching estimated speeds of more than 7,600 mph (12,000 kph).
After the alert, a shadowy figure told Torres he must never talk about the incident and he duly kept silent for more than 30 years.
His story was among dozens of UFO sightings in defence ministry files released at the National Archives in London.
In a written account, Torres described how he scrambled his F-86 D Sabre jet in calm weather from the Royal Air Force base at Manston, Kent in May 1957.
"I was only a lieutenant and very much aware of the gravity of the situation. I felt very much like a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest," he said.
"The order came to fire a salvo of rockets at the UFO. The authentication was valid and I selected 24 rockets.
"I had a lock-on that had the proportions of a flying aircraft carrier," he added. "The larger the airplane, the easier the lock-on. This blip almost locked itself."
At the last moment, the object disappeared from the radar screen and the high-speed chase was called off.
He returned to base and was debriefed the next day by an unnamed man who "looked like a well-dressed IBM salesman."
"He threatened me with a national security breach if I breathed a word about it to anyone," he said.
The documents contain no official explanation for the incident, which came at a time of heightened tension between the West and the Soviet Union. Planes were on constant stand-by at British bases for a possible Soviet attack.
The files blame other UFO sightings on weather balloons, clouds or normal aircraft. Torres said he had been waiting 50 years for an explanation.
"I shall never forget it," he told the Times. "On that night I was ordered to open fire even before I had taken off. That had never happened before."
UFO expert David Clarke said the sighting may have been part of a secret U.S. project to create phantom aircraft on radar screens to test Soviet air defences.
"Perhaps what this pilot had seen was some kind of experiment in electronic warfare or maybe it was a UFO," he said. "Something very unusual happened."
The files are online at: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ufos
(Editing by Steve Addison) |
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climber159
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