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raewon
Joined: 16 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject: help with using commas and names |
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Commas aren't my forte, could someone please confirm that the folllowing commas are indeed correct?
1. This is my friend, Tom.
2. Please meet my friend, Tom
3. My best friend, Sujin, will take part in the marathon race.
4. Sujin, my partner, sings very well.
Thank you. |
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iammac2002
Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Location: 'n Beter plek.
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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No, I changed my mind again, it's all right. All of it is right. No, it's all left. No, I don't know, do you know?
Last edited by iammac2002 on Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:35 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I, think, it's, fine, too. |
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raewon
Joined: 16 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the replies. But can anyone really confirm if they are indeed correct or not. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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3 & 4 are indisputably correct.
1 & 2 are arguable, maybe more a question of style than grammar. Personally, I would toss those commas as they create possible ambiguity:
This is my friend, Tom. Is the friend's name Tom or is he being introduced to Tom? This is my friend Tom can only be read one way. |
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raewon
Joined: 16 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject: schwa |
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| Thank you schwa. That clears things up for me. |
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Dodgy Al
Joined: 15 May 2004 Location: Seoul
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martypants
Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ulsan, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Commas should be used if you would say same the sentence with a slight pause.
"Meet my friend Tom." That would be no pause and would be asking Tom to meet your friend.
"Meet my friend, Tom." Would have a pause and would be asking a 3rd party to meet your friend whose name is Tom. |
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MattAwesome
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| martypants wrote: |
Commas should be used if you would say same the sentence with a slight pause.
"Meet my friend Tom." That would be no pause and would be asking Tom to meet your friend.
"Meet my friend, Tom." Would have a pause and would be asking a 3rd party to meet your friend whose name is Tom. |
best explanation for the first 2. 2nd 2 are good. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| raewon wrote: |
| Thanks for the replies. But can anyone really confirm if they are indeed correct or not. |
Perfect. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:15 am Post subject: |
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| schwa wrote: |
| This is my friend, Tom. Is the friend's name Tom or is he being introduced to Tom? This is my friend Tom can only be read one way. |
Ah, but to avoid ambiguity, one should write, "Tom, this is my friend." |
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martypants
Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ulsan, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:16 am Post subject: |
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#3 and #4 are correct as originally written.
I am NEVER wrong, unless it was that one time back in band camp... |
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buildbyflying

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: To your right. No, your other right.
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:24 am Post subject: |
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If you look at Strunk and White's Elements of Style you'll note that grammar has changed significantly in what 80 years?
Stating hard and fast rules are pointless. Teach language evolution! |
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