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Interview with Topia English Zone tomorrow..

 
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jyoo24



Joined: 10 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:34 am    Post subject: Interview with Topia English Zone tomorrow.. Reply with quote

So, I have an interview with Topia English Zone tomorrow and I was told that I would be given some materials to study for 30 minutes and then I would have to carry out a demo-class for 30 minutes.

I don't have any prior teaching experience so I'm pretty nervous. Has anyone done something like this before? If so, do you have any suggestions/tips on how to nail the interview?

Thanks in advance for your help! Smile
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would tell Topia to go jump off a cliff. This sounds insane. I've never had to do this to get hired before, and I won't. I only had to do a demo while the other teachers pretended to be students at one school. Even that was ridiculous, but it was only for about 10 minutes, not 30. And it was after I was already hired. Plus, two guys weaseled out of having to do it, but the rest of us had to. So, I think demos are a bunch of nonsense. Why should I have to prove myself?
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jyoo24



Joined: 10 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your input princess.

Apparently, this mock-class will be used to determine how much Topia will pay me? Either way, I'm not too happy about it.
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jyoo24 wrote:
Thanks for your input princess.

Apparently, this mock-class will be used to determine how much Topia will pay me? Either way, I'm not too happy about it.
Be careful. This just doesn't sound like fair treatment. I've never heard of a demo class being used to determine pay...RUN!
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I received a contract from Topia and didn't have to do a 30 minute mock teaching session. Regardless, the contract was typical hagwon, with many clauses violating the Korean Labor Standards Act. Have fun.
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Sausolito



Joined: 28 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

princess wrote:
I would tell Topia to go jump off a cliff. This sounds insane. I've never had to do this to get hired before, and I won't. I only had to do a demo while the other teachers pretended to be students at one school. Even that was ridiculous, but it was only for about 10 minutes, not 30. And it was after I was already hired. Plus, two guys weaseled out of having to do it, but the rest of us had to. So, I think demos are a bunch of nonsense. Why should I have to prove myself?


Why shouldn't you have to prove yourself?

Serious question, by the way.
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climber159



Joined: 02 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's a bad idea for an employer to want to see a demo lesson from their prospective employee. It's a good way to determine how well a teacher can prepare and deliver materials. The McHagwons (like Topia) are looking for a specific type of individual who will fit their predetermined model of a teacher. I can't really give you much advice on how to do the lesson. Just imagine you're the one learning the foreign language and teach the way you'd want to be taught to.

Good luck. And, remember that this isn't the only job out there.
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jyoo24



Joined: 10 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, interview went well.

My recruiter misinformed me; the mock-class was actually 10 minutes, not 30. Also, it was in front of a few of the directors not children.

Thinking about it, I can definitely understand why a hagwon would make candidates perform mock-classes. They take a risk hiring inexperienced teachers and these mock-classes help them filter out those who may not have the potential to teach effectively.

Also, thank you to those who replied. I truly appreciate it.
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad it went well.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

princess wrote:
I would tell Topia to go jump off a cliff. This sounds insane. I've never had to do this to get hired before, and I won't. I only had to do a demo while the other teachers pretended to be students at one school. Even that was ridiculous, but it was only for about 10 minutes, not 30. And it was after I was already hired. Plus, two guys weaseled out of having to do it, but the rest of us had to. So, I think demos are a bunch of nonsense. Why should I have to prove myself?


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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an interview with them last year. I didn't have to do a demo. I asked how long classes were and they said "60 minutes." I then inquired about breakes between classes and the interviewee seemed confused and said "5 minutes." So basically they count teaching hours as 60 minutes. They said, "But you will probably only have 26 to 28 classes a week." Did the math quickly in my head and it didn't look too good to me. That and hearing from a gyoppo about how they grilled him at an interview and belittled him after, but kept calling him and pretty much demanding that they take they're crappy offer because they didn't think that he was that good of a teacher. He kept telling them that he didn't want to work for them, but they kept calling.

So what does that tell you about TOPIA?

Anyway, they offered me 2.5, but I figured with the time I had to put in there, it was more like 2. 6. So that's what I told them and they didn't call them back.

Oh well.
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robot



Joined: 07 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad it went well, and it's cool that you took the whole thing in stride.

Usually for the better gigs you need to do mocks. Topia's got a pretty high salary ceiling -- more than most people know -- and it's not a bad job at all.

I'd never work anywhere that DIDN'T require mocking.
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fustiancorduroy



Joined: 12 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

robot wrote:
I'm glad it went well, and it's cool that you took the whole thing in stride.

Usually for the better gigs you need to do mocks. Topia's got a pretty high salary ceiling -- more than most people know -- and it's not a bad job at all.

I'd never work anywhere that DIDN'T require mocking.


I second this. Any decent job, be it a high-level hagwon or a foreign language high school, will require prospective teachers to give a demo lesson, and probably take some grammar/reading comprehension tests, as well. Why would you want to work somewhere that doesn't care about the quality of their teachers?
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