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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:16 am Post subject: Discussion topic: Skin whiteners labeled racist |
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Here's a good article to discuss with your older students:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/09/09/india.skin/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
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NEW DELHI, India (CNN) -- Cosmetic advertisements in Asia are targeting men with blunt campaigns aimed at skin color that one lawmaker labels racist.
In one TV commercial, two men, one with dark skin, the other with light skin; stand on a balcony overlooking a neighborhood. The dark skin guy turns to his friend and says in Hindi, "I am unlucky because of my face." His light skin friend replies, "Not because of your face, because of the color of your face."
Suddenly the light skin guy throws his friend a cream. It's a whitening cream..... |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:57 am Post subject: Re: Discussion topic: Skin whiteners labeled racist |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
Here's a good article to discuss with your older students:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/09/09/india.skin/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
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NEW DELHI, India (CNN) -- Cosmetic advertisements in Asia are targeting men with blunt campaigns aimed at skin color that one lawmaker labels racist.
In one TV commercial, two men, one with dark skin, the other with light skin; stand on a balcony overlooking a neighborhood. The dark skin guy turns to his friend and says in Hindi, "I am unlucky because of my face." His light skin friend replies, "Not because of your face, because of the color of your face."
Suddenly the light skin guy throws his friend a cream. It's a whitening cream..... |
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Ya, I read that article. I was wondering why it was trageted to men instead of women. Maybe they have a lot of creams for women already and this was to get some of the action from men. |
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oskinny1

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Right behind you!
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| It isn't saying skin whiteners are racist, it is saying the commercial is racist. You can't get a girl or a good job if you have dark skin can be viewed as racist. |
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seonsengnimble
Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Location: taking a ride on the magic English bus
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:55 am Post subject: |
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I find nothing objectionable about this add for several reasons.
The first is that if it's anything like Korea, the white skin has nothing to do with race. If you have a tan, you are a commoner who spends long days outdoors and have darker skin. This is why Korea has things like whitening cream and those arm bands that keep your arms from getting tanned when you're outdoors. Granted, it is classist, but most civilized countries have the equivalent. In whiter countries, the opposite is true. If you have a tan, it signifies you spent your free time in a distant tropical place rather than at home in the basement.
The second reason is that the commercial isn't creating a stereotype, it's just capitalizing off of one. If people are more successful because they have a whiter skin tone, then why not offer a product that gives it.
The third reason, which has already been addressed by the first is that it's the same everywhere. In America, looking too white is considered unappealing. So, people go sunbathing, go to tanning salons and buy tan cream. How is it racist for Indians to want to look paler while it's ok for Caucasians to want to look darker? |
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Deep Thirteen
Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Location: Swamp Land
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| I don't think it is racist in the way we think about it. India has always put more emphasis on class than race in its history. The word of class (caste) in India is varna which translates as 'color'. There's an implication of your skin color and corresponding class throughout Indian history. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| seonsengnimble wrote: |
| The second reason is that the commercial isn't creating a stereotype, it's just capitalizing off of one. If people are more successful because they have a whiter skin tone, then why not offer a product that gives it. |
The stereotype already exists, yes, but at what point do you say the media is merely reflecting the culture as opposed to deepening and perpetuating trends or even inciting new trends? It seems to me the media does all of these, in varying capacities and at various times. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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How is it racist when they are the same race?
It does make me uncomfortable though. I have a student who must use those creams religiously because her skin is perfect, and so white it glows. I almost complimented her on it, but didn't because I don't want to look like I think darker skin is bad.  |
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kabrams

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Location: your Dad's house
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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The third reason, which has already been addressed by the first is that it's the same everywhere. In America, looking too white is considered unappealing. So, people go sunbathing, go to tanning salons and buy tan cream. How is it racist for Indians to want to look paler while it's ok for Caucasians to want to look darker? |
Because the consequences of having really pale skin are not as drastic as if you were to have really dark skin.
Seriously, how is this even a question?
These people are being denied jobs and opportunities because of how dark their skin is. I highly doubt scores of pale white people have lost jobs and opportunities simply for having white skin.
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The first is that if it's anything like Korea, the white skin has nothing to do with race. If you have a tan, you are a commoner who spends long days outdoors and have darker skin. This is why Korea has things like whitening cream and those arm bands that keep your arms from getting tanned when you're outdoors. . |
Yes, this was a part of why white skin was valued. But do you really think if black Africans took over the New World, white skin would be as valued as it is today?
I don't think so.
The British in India reinforced and even strengthened the skin-code social rules, as did many of their progeny, the Anglo-Indians. Ignoring this and saying, "Oh, it's just Indian cultural tradition!" is ridiculous. You cannot deny that white faces are exported all over the world.
Walk down around in Seoul, and you'll be sure to see more than a few white models smiling down at you from the billboards. |
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