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iggyb
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: Window Into The Job Market |
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Here is the bulk of a reply I got from one of the big hakwon chains after sending out a batch of emails to specific branches after finding out SMOE had dropped me:
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Thank you for your application. At this time, no schools in my region are looking to hire.
Your resume and contact details have been recorded on our HR site, allowing all YBM-ELS and ECC schools to view your application and contact you. |
On the bright side, if I do head to Korea next week as planned, but taking advantage of the no-visa tourist waiver with the US, and I still can't find a job, at least I will be spending time with my mother-in-law at a time she needs it... |
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asmith
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Window Into The Job Market |
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iggyb wrote: |
Here is the bulk of a reply I got from one of the big hakwon chains after sending out a batch of emails to specific branches after finding out SMOE had dropped me:
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Thank you for your application. At this time, no schools in my region are looking to hire.
Your resume and contact details have been recorded on our HR site, allowing all YBM-ELS and ECC schools to view your application and contact you. |
On the bright side, if I do head to Korea next week as planned, but taking advantage of the no-visa tourist waiver with the US, and I still can't find a job, at least I will be spending time with my mother-in-law at a time she needs it... |
It's scary and unheard of. It's only going to get worse. We are going to be in the toilet for the next 10 to 15 years. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see it that way.
Before three or four years ago, there were very few public school jobs out there. It all opened up back then, and now some people are getting all worried about the public schools filling up? Nah... history shows that 40%+ of the people who come here are gone before the first year even finishes. A large percentage of the ones who remain don't even renew.
Now that these jobs are "full" at the moment, it's the end of the ESL world in Korea?
The hilarious thing about all of this is that the government has encouraged more obsession with English education. Money spent on private education has increased substantially in the years since they started putting foreigners in public schools. Remember, the whole goal of this was to try to cut out the hagwons. It hasn't worked. |
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iggyb
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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It is somewhat surprising to see that the ECC kids places in Seoul (or a more narrow area of Seoul, if that is what the guy is talking about) are full. I'm not surprised about the adult locations, but the kids too....
I'm not overly worried. I am about my target area, but if need be, I could get a job in Gangwon/Kangwon province much closer to where my mother-in-law lives. I can't imagine the job market outside of Seoul-Busan/Pusan is that filled up...
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asmith
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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iggyb wrote: |
It is somewhat surprising to see that the ECC kids places in Seoul (or a more narrow area of Seoul, if that is what the guy is talking about) are full. I'm not surprised about the adult locations, but the kids too.... |
We're in a depression. Jobs are going to be tough to come by for years to come. Them's the facts. |
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travelingfool
Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Location: Parents' basement
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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asmith wrote: |
iggyb wrote: |
It is somewhat surprising to see that the ECC kids places in Seoul (or a more narrow area of Seoul, if that is what the guy is talking about) are full. I'm not surprised about the adult locations, but the kids too.... |
We're in a depression. Jobs are going to be tough to come by for years to come. Them's the facts. |
You are such a ray of sunshine! A beacon of optimism and hope  |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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asmith wrote: |
We're in a depression. Jobs are going to be tough to come by for years to come. Them's the facts. |
What 'we'? You're in a depression. It's time to spread your wings, let go, and sing a happy song.
I met a hagwon owner and asked if the number of public school FT increasing in town had an impact on her hagwon. A year ago there was one FT in the public schools in the whole town of 50,000 pop. Now there are 11.
The Korean Moms, this hagwon owner said, think that because the public school their child goes to has a FT their child is miraculously absorbing English. She doesn't have a FT at the hagwon and teaches the kids herself.
At the hagwon kids get more time to study English. At the public school kids see the FT what, once or twice a week for 40m and that in a class of 35 other kids? She tells the Moms that a FT at the public school doesn't get the job done. And I agree.
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asmith
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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travelingfool wrote: |
asmith wrote: |
iggyb wrote: |
It is somewhat surprising to see that the ECC kids places in Seoul (or a more narrow area of Seoul, if that is what the guy is talking about) are full. I'm not surprised about the adult locations, but the kids too.... |
We're in a depression. Jobs are going to be tough to come by for years to come. Them's the facts. |
You are such a ray of sunshine! A beacon of optimism and hope  |
Optimism? Hope?
We now have over 30 million people on foodstamps.
We have an REAL unemployment rate of 17 percent.
We have no manufactoring base left to fall back on.
We have record level foreclosure rates.
The only ones making money are the Wall Street boys.
But your hair does look nice today. |
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Big Pun Lives
Joined: 12 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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asmith wrote: |
travelingfool wrote: |
asmith wrote: |
iggyb wrote: |
It is somewhat surprising to see that the ECC kids places in Seoul (or a more narrow area of Seoul, if that is what the guy is talking about) are full. I'm not surprised about the adult locations, but the kids too.... |
We're in a depression. Jobs are going to be tough to come by for years to come. Them's the facts. |
You are such a ray of sunshine! A beacon of optimism and hope  |
Optimism? Hope?
We now have over 30 million people on foodstamps.
We have an REAL unemployment rate of 17 percent.
We have no manufactoring base left to fall back on.
We have record level foreclosure rates.
The only ones making money are the Wall Street boys.
But your hair does look nice today. |
Sorry REAL unemployment is closer to 14% (not higher than the early 80's)
The US has been moving away from a simple manufacturing economy to value added highly developed manufacturing economy for the last 20 years.
Some jobs are lost making cheap shoes, but the US IS STILL THE WORLDS LARGEST MANUFACTURER.
Source http://investing.curiouscatblog.net/2008/09/23/top-manufacturing-countries-in-2007/
Actually the foreclosure rate was higher during the depression. You just need to look and think for yourself sometimes.
http://www.housingintelligence.com/economics/some-truth-about-historical-foreclosure-rates-p-2.html
Wall Street will always make money. That is how we all make money, through the buying and selling of scarce commodities.
For example; You trade your scarce knowledge to Koreans for won.
Have a Great weekend - enjoy the clouds in asmith land
- Big Pun |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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For the most part, asmith is right on. But, I'm not so sure even the wall street boys are doing so well. I read a story online about this guy who lost his big high paying wall street gig, only to have to go and make $25,000 a year as a restaurant host. His former colleagues actually come into the restaurant and snicker and laugh at him. How rude! They better watch out. They'll be next.
This guy has to support himelf and his wife and kids on $25,000 a year now. They have a $900,000 home that they are about to lose now and their savings are gone. Sad, but, as my grandpa would say if he were still here, "Ah, they get to take a step down with the rest of us". It must be nice to have a slice of the good life, but it must be even worse, to go rom riches to rags. Hence, the suicide rates increasing. People think they are TOO GOOD to be poor like many of us and they can't handle taking all those steps down.
There are already a bunch of tent communities in the states, but of course, the new world order ran news dummies aren't going to tell you this. Notcie how FOX news tells the grim truth about things, and then makes it out to be a joke. They want to keep the panic levels down. |
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