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Does 'Avatar' Contain Hidden Messages?
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kiknkorea



Joined: 16 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Does 'Avatar' Contain Hidden Messages? Reply with quote

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/hmg-avatar-hidden-messages.html

Funny article, I really didn't think they were all that hidden. Wink

Are the 3-D glasses blinding some people? Rolling Eyes
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure there are pro-eugenics messages in the movie, actually, put there by David Rockefeller and the Trilateral Comission. I don't really have any proof of this, but I have no proof it isn't true, so really it's pretty much fact.
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asylum seeker



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
Pretty sure there are pro-eugenics messages in the movie, actually, put there by David Rockefeller and the Trilateral Comission. I don't really have any proof of this, but I have no proof it isn't true, so really it's pretty much fact.


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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every movie is political, whether pro- or anti-Establishment.

Avatar has tons of themes and imagery with cultural resonance, hell, it'll even be called an anti-American film since it's made by a Canadian and portrays the human (read: U.S.) military as the bad guys even though they profess to "fight terror" ("fight terror with terror" being a direct quote).

Blah blah blah blah.

As a work of art, the filmmaking is incredible. (Though it does have a Star Wars meet Jurassic Park feel to it that makes it seem a bit derivative and reflective of the times rather than original, groundbreaking or of lasting value.

The video game could be a lot of fun to play.
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ytuque



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It felt like a science fantasy version of "Dances with Wolves."
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ytuque wrote:
It felt like a science fantasy version of "Dances with Wolves."


You need to watch this review
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/1333-Avatar
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rocket_scientist



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There aren't any hidden messages. The messages are all pretty obvious. If Cameron wants to help the environment, he should direct Kabuki.
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colored people with tribal markings and jewelry are saved by a white man.

There's your message.
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ytuque



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And now for a Hindu perspective:

http://www.cnngo.com/mumbai/play/avatar-hindu-perspective-961455
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thecount



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rocket_scientist wrote:
There aren't any hidden messages. The messages are all pretty obvious. If Cameron wants to help the environment, he should direct Kabuki.


Indeed. Avatar was about as subtle as a Tsunami.

Not big on plot, that James Cameron.
See: Alien (Ridley Scott's masterpiece) to Aliens (wtf did you do, Cameron?!) transition.
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ubermenzch



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecount wrote:
rocket_scientist wrote:
There aren't any hidden messages. The messages are all pretty obvious. If Cameron wants to help the environment, he should direct Kabuki.


Indeed. Avatar was about as subtle as a Tsunami.

Not big on plot, that James Cameron.
See: Alien (Ridley Scott's masterpiece) to Aliens (wtf did you do, Cameron?!) transition.


but his movies are always so damn cool. whatever he's doing it obviously works.
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thecount



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard the "cool" argument in defense of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen and Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace, as well.

Didn't stop both movies from being excrement.
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The film does borrow heavily from Vedic culture (eg: brahminical initiation, ancestor worship, Earth-goddess worship, the dark blue coloring with facial markings, and the riding of giant birds. The most famous bird-carrior is Vishnu's Garuda ... http://www.krishnamedia.org/ImageFolio/ImageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Krishna_Conscious_Paintings&image=TA0160.jpg&img=144&tt=
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asylum seeker



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecount wrote:
I heard the "cool" argument in defense of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen and Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace, as well.

Didn't stop both movies from being excrement.


Avatar doesn't have the most interesting story but it's still far better than those two. The ice cream truck jive-talkin' autobots in Transformers II were a disgrace, not to mention Jar-jar Binks (shudder).
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another distinctively Vedic feature of "Avatar" (what to speak of the title) is the ritual of saying a prayer directly to the animal that one is about to kill. And - as in Vedic culture - the killing of animals, plants, and trees by the Navi is done only when really necessary.

Most of the comments (by critics) regarding race lack the philosophical perspective that comes with understanding the Vedic concepts of transmigration of souls and spiritual evolution.

The main character's spirit-soul transmigrated to a more civilized human form more in tune with laws of Nature (ultimately controlled by the Supreme Person.) Moreover, Nature personified is characterized as being impartial - She doesn't take sides in human conflicts.
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