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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:48 pm    Post subject: Want to improve foreigners image in Korea? Reply with quote

Here is a good place to start, if you know someone in this group, or are a part of it, do something about it.
There is apparently a group of about 15 foreigners near yeoksam (my friend thinks about half canadian, half australialn) who every weekend, like to scream, yell, and carry on in front of their apartment building until 3 am pretty much every friday and saturday night. On top of that they're smoking right outside people's windows, bouncing basketballs, etc for hours.

The cops had been called before, but the guy who came was alone and didn't speak english. people have yelled at them to be quiet which resulted in the regular drunken response.

This has been going on for months. Seriously, go find a park or something.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a group of useless drunks and other unmeritable men who like to drink outside my building every night. They usually quit around 2 am, which doesn't work for me since I get up at 7 am.

Inevitably, one man gets mad at another, and a shouting match starts.

This has been going on since about May, almost every night, including Monday night (like last night).
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
There is a group of useless drunks and other unmeritable men who like to drink outside my building every night. They usually quit around 2 am, which doesn't work for me since I get up at 7 am.

Inevitably, one man gets mad at another, and a shouting match starts.

This has been going on since about May, almost every night, including Monday night (like last night).


have you called the cops? and do these guys yell the entire time, or just later on when they have a fight? Apparently this group is basically screaming and yelling non-stop for 5-7 hours at a time.
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samcheokguy



Joined: 02 Nov 2008
Location: Samcheok G-do

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow large groups of foreigners....imagine that.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samcheokguy wrote:
Wow large groups of foreigners....imagine that.


acting like idiots and screaming and yelling until 3 am on a regular basis. I'm sure if we moved them in front of your building so they could keep you up and blow smoke in your bedroom window that would be okay?

Posters here often complain about our image in Korea, and this kind of stuff doesn't help it. For the nth week in a row these people are kept awake half the night and guess what they do when their friend asks them why they look tired? Tell them about this group of foreigners who spends every weekend keeping up half the neighbourhood.
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retrogress



Joined: 07 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we ever did anything like that when I was working in an academy (a few years ago) our boss would have been notified and we would have been griped out.

The fact that it goes on and on makes me think that the Ks are doing enough about it themselves, or the OP feels much more embarrassed about the problem than the K's feel disturbed by it.

I can empathize with the OP. A lot of things foreigners do is bothersome and I sometimes would like to say, "Hey bozos, stop that. You wouldn't be this way in your own country so don't here." But the fact of the matter is that it wouldn't make any difference to the bozos if I said something---if they really are truly that annoying. Generally people who are blattently obnoxious for long periods of time are bordering on sociopathic and I try to stay away fromthem.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

retrogress wrote:
If we ever did anything like that when I was working in an academy (a few years ago) our boss would have been notified and we would have been griped out.

The fact that it goes on and on makes me think that the Ks are doing enough about it themselves, or the OP feels much more embarrassed about the problem than the K's feel disturbed by it.

I can empathize with the OP. A lot of things foreigners do is bothersome and I sometimes would like to say, "Hey bozos, stop that. You wouldn't be this way in your own country so don't here." But the fact of the matter is that it wouldn't make any difference to the bozos if I said something---if they really are truly that annoying. Generally people who are blattently obnoxious for long periods of time are bordering on sociopathic and I try to stay away fromthem.


Its not me, its my friend. Her mother has called the landlord of the building they're in, who is also apparently the owner of the academy these clowns work at. Their boss should be well aware of their behaviour. A few months ago they used to have parties on the roof of the building every weekend, but the landlord locked it off, so they moved downstairs and have been having parties in front of the building every weekend since. They've yelled at them, they've called the cops at least once, these people should have no doubts about how the people near there feel about them.

She said she can usually hear/see a couple girls trying to tell everyone to calm down and be quiet but the rest of the group ignores them and just continues screaming and yelling.
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David Gerrington



Joined: 20 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

Want to improve foreigners image in Korea?


No.
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teaching English in Korea, or: How I extended my frat life for an extra year after my parents got tired of my baloney and cut me off.

There are too many of them to do anything about. They blow in with the wind, and then blow right back out. Tell your friend to hang on for another month -- they probably all came in sometime between August and October, and will be on the plane straight back to reality soon enough.
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AgentM



Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: British Columbia, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh, I sympathize with the OP! I hate people like that! However, like retro, I doubt that at this point one foreigner telling them off would make much of a difference.

When I get to Korea I plan on avoiding losers like that if I possibly can! Find some friends that are sensible people and not frat boy partiers.
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IMF crisis



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some non-Korean on the other side of town are being too loud at night and in the moring? I'd better get on over there and do something about it or Koreans will think the worst of me. But if I put a stop to the bad behavior of other foreigners, how will I be able to maintain my sense of superiority? It's a real dilema.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMF crisis wrote:
Some non-Korean on the other side of town are being too loud at night and in the moring? I'd better get on over there and do something about it or Koreans will think the worst of me. But if I put a stop to the bad behavior of other foreigners, how will I be able to maintain my sense of superiority? It's a real dilema.


I didn't say you had to personally. I was suggesting if someone on this board knew these people they could tell them to chill out. Dave's is pretty much the go to site for ESL, especially in Korea, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect someone here might work at their school/live in the building, or live in a building nearby and hear them screaming every weekend, or be part of the group itself. Not just for the people trying to sleep, but the foreigners as well. If they continue to call the cops, they might not get the shy guy who doesn't speak any english next time. If they call enough times, the cops might get tired of it and send a few cars down and instead of just trying to tell them to move along, they might arrest them for causing a disturbance. I guess that would make a much more interesting thread, then people could rant about the korean justice system again.
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OnTheOtherSide



Joined: 29 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only way to stop it is to start up a vigilante super-hero squad to go fight crime at night. Who's in? We all gotta wear spandex and learn some karate first.
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Electron cloud

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to dsay some of the foriegners behaviour in haebangchan embarasses me. And to be fair it's usually white ESL teachers, not the Russians / Africans or other Asian foriegners...

The owner of the new 7-11 or Famart ore whatever has had to put up a sign asking people not to congregate there after 1am.

I think it's mostly a symptom of different drinking culture and not beiing able to hande your / behave well after drinking - booze.

Yeah if I were neigbours to those foriegners in Yeoksam and they kept me up with their noise I'd be well pissed off. It's been other non Asian foriegners I've had to ask to be quiet near my apt in hbc too on a few occaisions...
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dc'79



Joined: 01 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go buy a water hose and run it out the window. Warn them they will be soaked if they can't keep the noise down. If after being soaked they want to bang on your door, I'd call 119 and report an attempted break in.
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