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saint_moi
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: That little place where I'm meant to be.
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 Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:13 am Post subject: Given contract renewal ultimatum |
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In fine Korean style, my boss explained that she has to declare and pay my tax in full for the next year contract, and hence I have 1 day to notify her of my intentions to renew.
It's exactly 2 months before my contract ends so it kinda makes sense. Anyone know if this is the norm?
So I have 1 day to make a decision on a whole year.
Off the subject but I wanted to add that, I'm inclined to change and move around Korea somewhere else; somewhere new n experience new stuff. You all prefer to let your roots settle in one place, or like to move on after your contracts up to try summin new elsewhere?
...the contract renewal Q is more pertinant btw  |
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| I chose to keep moving until I lived in Kangnam. That is where I wanted to live and that is where I will stay until I find a nice wife and settle down in the suburbs....i.e. Pundang. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| Your call. You dont say anything about your status quo. Change if you want but do you know where youre headed? Snap decisions, trust your instincts. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| Just for the record, you are being lied to. Your boss doesn't have to pay your entire tax for next year 2 months before the end of your contract. |
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saint_moi
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: That little place where I'm meant to be.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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But what's the deal with the ultimatum? I was told that my tax has to be declared by my boss by tomorrow which is 2 months before my contract ends. So she sprung this on me, and I have today to decide hahahaha  .
Is that right? You have to draft a new contract that early? Or make a commitment to stay 2 months before it's done? |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Given contract renewal ultimatum |
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| saint_moi wrote: |
In fine Korean style, my boss explained that she has to declare and pay my tax in full for the next year contract, and hence I have 1 day to notify her of my intentions to renew.
It's exactly 2 months before my contract ends so it kinda makes sense. Anyone know if this is the norm?
So I have 1 day to make a decision on a whole year.
Off the subject but I wanted to add that, I'm inclined to change and move around Korea somewhere else; somewhere new n experience new stuff. You all prefer to let your roots settle in one place, or like to move on after your contracts up to try summin new elsewhere?
...the contract renewal Q is more pertinant btw |
I don't buy it. IMO, The boss wants a decision from you because 2 months is about the time it takes to find a new foreign teacher to replace you and get them over here.
At my old hogwon, I decided to renew about 2 weeks before my contract was about to expire. |
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waterbaby
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, your boss is feeding you lies about the tax thing. It's probably her way of getting a decision out of you quickly. There's no laws or anything about how much notice you must give if you're going to re-sign. It's what you work out together. There may be something in your contract about it... mine says 60 days prior though they know I won't be re-signing. |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 12:26 am Post subject: Re: Given contract renewal ultimatum |
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| saint_moi wrote: |
In fine Korean style, my boss explained that she has to declare and pay my tax in full for the next year contract, and hence I have 1 day to notify her of my intentions to renew.
It's exactly 2 months before my contract ends so it kinda makes sense. Anyone know if this is the norm?
So I have 1 day to make a decision on a whole year.
Off the subject but I wanted to add that, I'm inclined to change and move around Korea somewhere else; somewhere new n experience new stuff. You all prefer to let your roots settle in one place, or like to move on after your contracts up to try summin new elsewhere?
...the contract renewal Q is more pertinant btw |
I am so confused. First, a billion kajillion of times a year all over the world people who are on a year at a time contract are asked about 2 months in advance if they want to be considered for a renewual. We are always badmouthing Korea (ME TOO OFTEN) but this is just good business, and dare I say it, what with being in Korea, but it is also common sense.
Imagine, all the people all over the world on year to year contracts who don't want to renew not giving the employer time to find a replacement. And, as for the employees, it is nice to have advanced notice that the co. does not intend to renew their contract. Then the employee has time to find a new job before the old contract is over. WIN WIN SIITUATION
Next. She says she has to report and pay your taxes. And just how does that interfer anymore with your life that if she had said, for example, I need to water my cactus in my office next week.
As for just having one day to decide, before anyone jumps on me and points that out. Although a bit starange, still at the 10 month mark, you are nearing the end of a 12 month contract, and you should have already given a lot of thought on wheather or not you wanted to stay and should already know your answer.
Obviously your boss has done this and wants you to stay. So once again What is the problem? I am one very confused chicken. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 2:20 am Post subject: |
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Saint moi: so what was your decision? Koreans are famous for springing something on you, that obviously requires more than 2 minutes consideration. They always have the advantage of surprise, because most people agree to something initially, so as not to lose out, but often change their mind on reflection.
Why'd she even lie about taxes? She could have just said "I need to have enough time to find someone new". but no. Koreans lie automatically, out of habit, even when theres no apparent need for it.
Korea Jezu obso. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 3:13 am Post subject: |
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| I am so confused. First, a billion kajillion of times a year all over the world people who are on a year at a time contract are asked about 2 months in advance if they want to be considered for a renewual. We are always badmouthing Korea (ME TOO OFTEN) but this is just good business, and dare I say it, what with being in Korea, but it is also common sense. |
Aw, hey, I don't think anybody here was saying that two months is unreasonable, just that the part about taxes was a load of hooey.
I agree that after 10 months you probably know whether you like where you are or want to take a chance on an unknown place again - obviously, the OP wasn't expecting it, though, and is freaked about the one-day-to-decide part of it.
Some contracts specifically mention that employer and employee must work this out at the 60-day mark. |
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prairieboy
Joined: 14 Sep 2003
Location: The batcave.
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My question is this: Why does she have to start paying your taxes in full next year? Has she not been doing this anyway or is she telling you in a round about way that she's been dodging taxes and still taking the money from you?
That just popped out as being a strange thing to say to anyone regardless of the situation.
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saint_moi
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: That little place where I'm meant to be.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Rapier et al...
(actually forgot about this thread)
I agreed but informed her that I needed a week or so to return home (make good use of the expensive return ticket) to sort what needs sorting out, between contracts.
I have initially agreed, we haven't drawn up any new contracts but I assume those too will be sprung on me at the last second. I am looking around at the same time. As I mentioned in other threads, I'm all too keen for a change of scenery and I'm looking to move to Seoul.
Umm,... why did she lie about the tax? All in all, she's a great boss. Nothing like the description of the typical hogwan boss I heard of when I first arrived. But she has an aversion to open important conversations. It was just her manner of posing this question to me. She was incapable of appearing weak and saying; "I don't have a new teacher and I need you to stay on".
The balli-balli manner didn't faze me at all. Like Rapier mentioned, I agreed and then just continued playing cards elsewhere. If the time comes and something better lands in my lap, then I shall be a perfect gent and find a replacement teacher. |
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Alex Buffa
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:30 am Post subject: |
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Rapier et al...
(actually forgot about this thread)
I agreed but informed her that I needed a week or so to return home (make good use of the expensive return ticket) to sort what needs sorting out, between contracts.
I have initially agreed, we haven't drawn up any new contracts but I assume those too will be sprung on me at the last second. I am looking around at the same time. As I mentioned in other threads, I'm all too keen for a change of scenery and I'm looking to move to Seoul.
Umm,... why did she lie about the tax? All in all, she's a great boss. Nothing like the description of the typical hogwan boss I heard of when I first arrived. But she has an aversion to open important conversations. It was just her manner of posing this question to me. She was incapable of appearing weak and saying; "I don't have a new teacher and I need you to stay on".
The balli-balli manner didn't faze me at all. Like Rapier mentioned, I agreed and then just continued playing cards elsewhere. If the time comes and something better lands in my lap, then I shall be a perfect gent and find a replacement teacher. |
I would like to make a suggestion before you sign on the dotted line. Since they are "trying" to make you sign a contract quickly. Try these terms. Reduce your contract 5 hours a week. Increase your salary 200,000 a month. And be firm with it. The cost to replace you is nearly what they are going to pay you extra. If they refuse, you can find a nice position elsewhere. If they accept, you will be very happy (as I became in my 2nd year) when I gave those terms. My boss accepted and life became much less stress free and a little extra money makes a nice difference in paying those bills.
I'm sure there are also other better positions. Perhaps you would like a month or two off while you search. Arrange storage for your property, go on a mini vacation and check your mail while doing job searches in that time. You can do so much better.
As for lying. If she lies to you, she does not respect you. And that suggests a serious problem to me. She seems more focused on having an instructor there than having "you" there. If she really needs you, she will accept "your" terms. Be a man...you're not a newbie here anymore. Be professional and firm about it. If she refuses, smile and say thanks for the interesting year and move on. You're not going to work there for the rest of your life, so leaving is only a matter of when.
Alex |
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saint_moi
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 6:01 am Post subject: |
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erm...
thanks but your other post was a load of hog so I'm inclined to dismiss pretty much anything you have to say. |
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Alex Buffa
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| In that case, I hope you enjoy your next year of babysitting. |
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