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AgentM
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: British Columbia, Canada
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 Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject: Accents |
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What do you notice about accents of different people from around the world?
I've been noticing that us Canadians often tend to pronounce our T's more like D's.
Aussies don't really pronounce their R's and T's very much.
What interesting observations have you made? |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, seeing that yours are not so interesting because anyone who has been through elementary school is likely aware of them, I should mention that people from Ocracoke Island, a place with a mere ~700 people speak with a "brogue" dialect. |
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aboxofchocolates
Joined: 21 Mar 2008
Location: on your mind
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: Accents |
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| AgentM wrote: |
I've been noticing that us Canadians often tend to pronounce our T's more like D's.
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Only some T's. the t at the beginning of tomatoe is usually sharp, but the one in the middle sounds more like a d to me. Saturday has more of a d sound, but if I'm imitating my snobby great aunt or I'm ticked off, I will enunciate t's. |
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AgentM
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: British Columbia, Canada
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Accents |
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| aboxofchocolates wrote: |
| Only some T's. the t at the beginning of tomatoe is usually sharp, but the one in the middle sounds more like a d to me. Saturday has more of a d sound, but if I'm imitating my snobby great aunt or I'm ticked off, I will enunciate t's. |
Good point! |
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bixlerscott
Joined: 27 Sep 2006
Location: Near Wonju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: Accents |
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| aboxofchocolates wrote: |
| AgentM wrote: |
I've been noticing that us Canadians often tend to pronounce our T's more like D's.
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Only some T's. the t at the beginning of tomatoe is usually sharp, but the one in the middle sounds more like a d to me. Saturday has more of a d sound, but if I'm imitating my snobby great aunt or I'm ticked off, I will enunciate t's. |
That's how we speak in the Northern areas of the lower 48. "Were Eading tomadoes while fishin lasd Saderdee when this tornaduh roured indo our town near Kansuh Cidee like thuh finguh of gawd." I call it lazy improper English, but that's just how people talk over there unless a newscaster. Sometimes it's tough for me to understand what people are saying, especially in groups of young college aged people, water cooler work talk, or party situations as a lot is abbreviated, spoken softly, and mispronounced. When we Northerners or Canadians say, "Toronto," it does seem to have a sharp 2nd T so there are exceptions even when you're not ticked off. When ticked off, we tend to enunciate everything very sharply charged with defensiveness. Really not much different than Canada until you get to Southern Missouri which makes the lower 48 split directly in half by accent and culture as well.
In my experience of speaking with Candians it's very natural and familiar to me as they aren't much different than what I'm used to back home in the US. American English has to be the hardest to learn from an ESL perspective vs. the crisp clear sounding mother tongue of Great Britian though they too have differing accents within their country. |
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OnTheOtherSide
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Americans have a harsh accent.
The word Iraq is supposed to be pronounced "ee-rock" but Americans call it "eye-rack".
Or Barack Obama, people call him "Ba-rack Obama" and it's supposed to be "Ba-rock Obama".
It's like they can't say that soft ahhh sound. |
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He with Horns on Head
Joined: 19 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Canada, the US, Australia, South Africa and England have a huge variety of different English accents for sure. Scotland, Wales, Ireland and New Zealand I'm not too sure about; they all sound the same to me, but I admit to never having been to any of those countries so I could be wrong.
Wrong.
Very wrong!
/wrong/ |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Dammit you linguistic noobs! |
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gakduki
Joined: 16 Jul 2009
Location: Passed out on line 2 going in circles
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: Accents |
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| bixlerscott wrote: |
| aboxofchocolates wrote: |
| AgentM wrote: |
I've been noticing that us Canadians often tend to pronounce our T's more like D's.
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Only some T's. the t at the beginning of tomatoe is usually sharp, but the one in the middle sounds more like a d to me. Saturday has more of a d sound, but if I'm imitating my snobby great aunt or I'm ticked off, I will enunciate t's. |
That's how we speak in the Northern areas of the lower 48. "Were Eading tomadoes while fishin lasd Saderdee when this tornaduh roured indo our town near Kansuh Cidee like thuh finguh of gawd." I call it lazy improper English, but that's just how people talk over there unless a newscaster. Sometimes it's tough for me to understand what people are saying, especially in groups of young college aged people, water cooler work talk, or party situations as a lot is abbreviated, spoken softly, and mispronounced. When we Northerners or Canadians say, "Toronto," it does seem to have a sharp 2nd T so there are exceptions even when you're not ticked off. When ticked off, we tend to enunciate everything very sharply charged with defensiveness. Really not much different than Canada until you get to Southern Missouri which makes the lower 48 split directly in half by accent and culture as well.
In my experience of speaking with Candians it's very natural and familiar to me as they aren't much different than what I'm used to back home in the US. American English has to be the hardest to learn from an ESL perspective vs. the crisp clear sounding mother tongue of Great Britian though they too have differing accents within their country. |
The second "T" in Toronto is dropped when a typical local says it. So the word sounds more like Tohrano |
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The evil penguin
Joined: 24 May 2003
Location: Doing something naughty near you.....
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GOODBYE  |
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AgentM
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: British Columbia, Canada
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| Ok, I've got a question for Americans. Why do some Texans have a thick Texan accent and some a more neutral one? Does it depend on what part of Texas you're from? A city vs. rural thing? |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Google "George Mason Accent Archive"
Have fun. |
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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The Andalucians of southern Spain pronounce their z's with a lispy, 'ith' sound. Cadiz = Cadeeth
And s's at the end of words are dropped altogether. Adios = adio. Buenos dios = bueno dio.
Penguin, where ya going? |
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DCJames
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| He with Horns on Head wrote: |
Canada, the US, Australia, South Africa and England have a huge variety of different English accents for sure. Scotland, Wales, Ireland and New Zealand I'm not too sure about; they all sound the same to me, but I admit to never having been to any of those countries so I could be wrong.
Wrong.
Very wrong!
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/rɔŋ, rɒŋ/
dumb-ass  |
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sqrlnutz123
Joined: 15 Jun 2009
Location: South Korea
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| I think Evil Penguin needs to be put on suicide watch. Do Koreans think our accent is cute when we speak Korean? I know Americans don't particularly care for Asian accents. But we like some European accents. But I don't think Europeans like our accents when we speak, for example, Spanish or French. |
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