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eIn07912

Joined: 06 Dec 2008 Location: seoul
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:51 am Post subject: Delivery... China style. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3KBiNIIxU8
This is part of the reason I'm convinced China will never be the one great ruling power in the world it hopes to be. It's not that he's just tossing the packages, it's that nobody cares he's doing it. People are just walking by like this is the everyday norm. Not even the salary guy in the semi-nice suit even flinches, he just passes on by.
Another reason can be found here:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/06/28/construction-chinese-style/
The world already knows that "Made in China" means made, cheap, fast, possibly poisonous, and wont last 5 minutes out of the package. It only becomes more obvious each day that China is taking the "face" concept to whole new levels. Also remember the brand new Mandarin Oriental Hotel in Beijing, the one the Chinese were so proud of for the Olympics, when up in smoke just a few months ago. A brand new 4 star luxury hotel... poof. Just like that.
So when people ask me, as an American, am I afraid of waking the sleeping red dragon, I have a nice chuckle. I know we can sometimes rip on Korean construction and practices, but they are light years ahead of the Chinese. I guess sometimes, we don't really know how good we have it here, until we get a chance to compare it to somewhere we could be. |
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thurst
Joined: 08 Apr 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: |
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i worked the midnight shift doing package handling at fedex during xmas/winter break of my soph year and i can tell you that there's nothing uniquely chinese about the way that guy was tossing those boxes around. |
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Kikomom

Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Pretty much like baggage handlers at any airport.
It's really only jewelers and flower shop people you can trust. |
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retrogress
Joined: 07 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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After more than 6 years in "backward parts" for China, i have to say that I've never seen anything like this happen (I loved the last little Kick the post office worker gave at the end!)
As for the construction photos...it didn't suprise me that there weren't explanations: it makes things less "wooooooowwwww" intriguing to have explanations.
The fallen building was caused not by poor constructino of the actual building, or the foundation for that matter. Everything wuold have been fine, except!!! while making an underground parking garage, the blocked a nearby creek with excavated earth and the water soaked into the foundation adn the thing just fell over. Not that its really any consolation, but the windows didn't break out of the building when it fell over! That's pretty solid.
As for the other photos showing what appear to be giant cracks at seams. These arent' cracks. They are grooves that are gouged out to lay wiring and water lines. They are about 1-1/2 inch wide and deep. They do this because they don't use plasterboard....wiring has to go somewhere.
I asked my friend who does interiors why they don't use plasteboard. His answer: Chinese plasterers can smooth out a wall as smooth as plasterboard and there are no tape seams to worry about. Later when I visited one of his worksites I saw that it is in fact true. They're amazing craftsmen.
The patchwork on the outside of the buildings seems to say, "The surfce has flaws". Actually, it is just where natural cracks that appear when concrete it poured are patched up. Later the building will be tiled over.
Most of the flaws in Chinese apartment buildings are not major ones. They include minor irritations such as water sealers that weren't adequate and ahve to be redone. Also, surface tiles that fall off. Or plaster that molds. I've also heard of concrete addittives that take months and months to evaporate entirely, etc. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Kikomom wrote: |
Pretty much like baggage handlers at any airport.
It's really only jewelers and flower shop people you can trust. |
Are you sure about the jewelers? I think people need a trained eye to assure themselves of that |
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Kikomom

Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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djsmnc wrote: |
Are you sure about the jewelers? |
I was speaking of the handling of precious packages. But you can add maternity ward nurses to that too. |
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eIn07912

Joined: 06 Dec 2008 Location: seoul
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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retrogress wrote: |
They're amazing craftsmen. |
Ha! Oh, thankx buddy. That gave me a big laugh. |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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No wonder my sea monkeys are all messed up. |
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He with Horns on Head
Joined: 19 Aug 2009 Location: Cybergoat farm
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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OP, there are many reasons as to why China won't be the 'ruling power'; throwing packages around is not one of them.
Odd though, what with Chinese products being so poisonous and deadly and all, that millions of Chinese are going about their lives without dying from toxins and living to a ripe old age wouldn't you say?
Keep the propaganda machine churning nonetheless... |
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You
Joined: 31 May 2009
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Kikomom wrote: |
djsmnc wrote: |
Are you sure about the jewelers? |
I was speaking of the handling of precious packages. But you can add maternity ward nurses to that too. |
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Ive watched some of those baby delivery shows, and its crazy how those nurses manhandle the babies. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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