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eIn07912



Joined: 06 Dec 2008
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:51 am    Post subject: Delivery... China style. Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3KBiNIIxU8

This is part of the reason I'm convinced China will never be the one great ruling power in the world it hopes to be. It's not that he's just tossing the packages, it's that nobody cares he's doing it. People are just walking by like this is the everyday norm. Not even the salary guy in the semi-nice suit even flinches, he just passes on by.

Another reason can be found here:

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/06/28/construction-chinese-style/

The world already knows that "Made in China" means made, cheap, fast, possibly poisonous, and wont last 5 minutes out of the package. It only becomes more obvious each day that China is taking the "face" concept to whole new levels. Also remember the brand new Mandarin Oriental Hotel in Beijing, the one the Chinese were so proud of for the Olympics, when up in smoke just a few months ago. A brand new 4 star luxury hotel... poof. Just like that.

So when people ask me, as an American, am I afraid of waking the sleeping red dragon, I have a nice chuckle. I know we can sometimes rip on Korean construction and practices, but they are light years ahead of the Chinese. I guess sometimes, we don't really know how good we have it here, until we get a chance to compare it to somewhere we could be.
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thurst



Joined: 08 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i worked the midnight shift doing package handling at fedex during xmas/winter break of my soph year and i can tell you that there's nothing uniquely chinese about the way that guy was tossing those boxes around.
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much like baggage handlers at any airport.

It's really only jewelers and flower shop people you can trust.
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retrogress



Joined: 07 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After more than 6 years in "backward parts" for China, i have to say that I've never seen anything like this happen (I loved the last little Kick the post office worker gave at the end!)

As for the construction photos...it didn't suprise me that there weren't explanations: it makes things less "wooooooowwwww" intriguing to have explanations.

The fallen building was caused not by poor constructino of the actual building, or the foundation for that matter. Everything wuold have been fine, except!!! while making an underground parking garage, the blocked a nearby creek with excavated earth and the water soaked into the foundation adn the thing just fell over. Not that its really any consolation, but the windows didn't break out of the building when it fell over! That's pretty solid.

As for the other photos showing what appear to be giant cracks at seams. These arent' cracks. They are grooves that are gouged out to lay wiring and water lines. They are about 1-1/2 inch wide and deep. They do this because they don't use plasterboard....wiring has to go somewhere.

I asked my friend who does interiors why they don't use plasteboard. His answer: Chinese plasterers can smooth out a wall as smooth as plasterboard and there are no tape seams to worry about. Later when I visited one of his worksites I saw that it is in fact true. They're amazing craftsmen.

The patchwork on the outside of the buildings seems to say, "The surfce has flaws". Actually, it is just where natural cracks that appear when concrete it poured are patched up. Later the building will be tiled over.

Most of the flaws in Chinese apartment buildings are not major ones. They include minor irritations such as water sealers that weren't adequate and ahve to be redone. Also, surface tiles that fall off. Or plaster that molds. I've also heard of concrete addittives that take months and months to evaporate entirely, etc.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kikomom wrote:
Pretty much like baggage handlers at any airport.

It's really only jewelers and flower shop people you can trust.


Are you sure about the jewelers? I think people need a trained eye to assure themselves of that
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djsmnc wrote:
Are you sure about the jewelers?

I was speaking of the handling of precious packages. But you can add maternity ward nurses to that too.
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eIn07912



Joined: 06 Dec 2008
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

retrogress wrote:
They're amazing craftsmen.


Ha! Oh, thankx buddy. That gave me a big laugh.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No wonder my sea monkeys are all messed up.
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He with Horns on Head



Joined: 19 Aug 2009
Location: Cybergoat farm

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, there are many reasons as to why China won't be the 'ruling power'; throwing packages around is not one of them.

Odd though, what with Chinese products being so poisonous and deadly and all, that millions of Chinese are going about their lives without dying from toxins and living to a ripe old age wouldn't you say?

Keep the propaganda machine churning nonetheless...
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You



Joined: 31 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kikomom wrote:
djsmnc wrote:
Are you sure about the jewelers?

I was speaking of the handling of precious packages. But you can add maternity ward nurses to that too.
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Ive watched some of those baby delivery shows, and its crazy how those nurses manhandle the babies.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He with Horns on Head wrote:

Odd though, what with Chinese products being so poisonous and deadly and all, that millions of Chinese are going about their lives without dying from toxins and living to a ripe old age wouldn't you say?

Keep the propaganda machine churning nonetheless...


Propaganda machine? You MUST be delusional if you think China doesn't have a Quality Control problem. Are you even aware of the amount of pollution there is in China?

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-02/24/content_7508856.htm

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/02/world/fg-china-birth-defects2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_of_China

http://libcom.org/news/protests-china-over-pollution-08082009


Oh right, that's all just "Propaganda" to you isn't it? Did you know that China is 105th when it comes to Life Expentancy? For a country whose economy will soon be one of the World's Largest, that is pretty bad.
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