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Does Korea promote the alcoholic lifestyle?
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asmith



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:12 pm    Post subject: Does Korea promote the alcoholic lifestyle? Reply with quote

Is it me or Korea.

Never drank that much before I came here.

Now I average two bottles of Jinro Original a night.

And I'm not complaining. If two bottles are wrong, I don't want to be right.
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mike in brasil



Joined: 09 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's a few things.

It seems there is no demonization of alcohol in Korea, whereas back home there is a lot of it. Blame the Puritans~ Here it's perfectly acceptable to get blind drunk and then find a nice comfy place on the gound to sleep it off.

Couple that with the fact that soju is easy to drink and it's cheap. Other distilled alcohols just doesn't go down so smoothly. And beer, well, after a couple of them I just ain't that thirsty.

Soju, as one student put it, is a blessing and a curse.
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UknowsI



Joined: 16 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pushed to drink more in Korea than I did at home, but I drank voluntarily much more at home than I do here. I guess it depends on your friends. But the Koreans I hang out with don't really drink that much. When they go out drinking they go out at 11 o'clock and push each other to drink soju or somek. Since people only drink when they are asked to drink I soon started doing the same, and in the end I'm just slightly tipsy when the clock hit 4 or so and we head home.

Back in my home country we would usually start drinking at 6 o'clock. We would also drink beer which tasted good and drink and shots that also tasted good. Since we would do this for 9 hours or so the total amount would be far more than anything I've drunk in Korea. However, we only did this once or sometimes twice a week, so if I were to go out every day here in Korea I would still end up drinking more. But we only drink every second week or even more seldom, so for me I'm almost drying up here.
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redaxe



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's Korea. Alcohol is cheaper and more socially acceptable here, and there are less "alternative" activities at night time. It's almost unacceptable not to drink.

I once declined to drink at a company dinner because I was feeling ill, so my male coworkers made me sit at the end of the table with the women. "If you don't wanna drink, well, you can just sit with the ladies, then." Fine by me.
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tiger fancini



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: Does Korea promote the alcoholic lifestyle? Reply with quote

asmith wrote:
Is it me or Korea.

Never drank that much before I came here.

Now I average two bottles of Jinro Original a night.

And I'm not complaining. If two bottles are wrong, I don't want to be right.


It's totally you.

You have the choice to drink it or not.

If you were in a different country, you'd probably find the local cheapie and guzzle that every night.

Don't worry about it.
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bobbyhanlon



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you drink with others, you can blame korean culture. if you drink alone, its your own fault!
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The Gipkik



Joined: 30 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL, now this is all making perfect sense: your bottles of soju and Daves are a marriage made in heaven!
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much this society supports and even lauds rampant alcoholism.

The gov't has recognized it and is trying to promote non-alcoholic lifestyle. But the people aren't listening.

Anyone who drinks soju doesn't like themselves very much.
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The Gipkik



Joined: 30 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:

Anyone who drinks soju doesn't like themselves very much.


Indeed, cheap alcohol and cheap cigarettes tells me that this government, this society believes that life is cheap. Typical problem in overpopulated countries.
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benji1422



Joined: 02 Jun 2009
Location: Los Angeles & Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Gipkik wrote:
Ilsanman wrote:

Anyone who drinks soju doesn't like themselves very much.


Indeed, cheap alcohol and cheap cigarettes tells me that this government, this society believes that life is cheap. Typical problem in overpopulated countries.


No because it numbs the population from thinking about how pointless work is. If they let them smoke dope they might actually THINK about life and realize that working 90 hours a week was pointless. Thats why Park Chunghee banned pot in the 70's when hemp used to grow wild everywhere all over Asia (China included).

It's also a cultural thing. If the culture is centered around alcohol, sex, talking s-- about each other and singing... you will participate in that unless you wanna be an outcast. In America and some other western countries, taking E or other drugs and smoking weed, is another sub culture... so you are not forced into a heavy drinking culture but then you are off on a different trip all together. It's all about whether you want to participate in the local culture or not.
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The Gipkik



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

benji1422 wrote:


No because it numbs the population from thinking about how pointless work is. If they let them smoke dope they might actually THINK about life and realize that working 90 hours a week was pointless. Thats why Park Chunghee banned pot in the 70's when hemp used to grow wild everywhere all over Asia (China included).

It's also a cultural thing. If the culture is centered around alcohol, sex, talking s-- about each other and singing... you will participate in that unless you wanna be an outcast. In America and some other western countries, taking E or other drugs and smoking weed, is another sub culture... so you are not forced into a heavy drinking culture but then you are off on a different trip all together. It's all about whether you want to participate in the local culture or not.


Frankly, mate, you are agreeing with me whether you like it or not. Numbs the population? Why would anyone care? Who would care? A cultural thing? Sure, consuming mind altering substances may be cultural, but why would it be supported and sustained? Who is supporting it or sustaining it--even in absentia? Are you making an argument that the government benefits by providing cheap alcohol, etc. to its law-abiding citizens?


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asmith



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

benji1422 wrote:
The Gipkik wrote:
Ilsanman wrote:

Anyone who drinks soju doesn't like themselves very much.


Indeed, cheap alcohol and cheap cigarettes tells me that this government, this society believes that life is cheap. Typical problem in overpopulated countries.


No because it numbs the population from thinking about how pointless work is. If they let them smoke dope they might actually THINK about life and realize that working 90 hours a week was pointless. Thats why Park Chunghee banned pot in the 70's when hemp used to grow wild everywhere all over Asia (China included).

It's also a cultural thing. If the culture is centered around alcohol, sex, talking s-- about each other and singing... you will participate in that unless you wanna be an outcast. In America and some other western countries, taking E or other drugs and smoking weed, is another sub culture... so you are not forced into a heavy drinking culture but then you are off on a different trip all together. It's all about whether you want to participate in the local culture or not.


Pot head!!!!
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Shiktang



Joined: 10 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a big problem with what's called bing drinking here. Called porktangju or something. Happens a lot with students. Not so long ago a female student collapsed and died in one of these episodes.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drinking at the office with staff back home would be an ethical dilemma with serious repurcussions that is frowned upon in training videos during orientation whereas some fried chicken and a former Coke bottle full of beer delivered by a man racing on a scooter without a helmet is par for the course here. In fact, I wouldn't trade it for almost anything back home!
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PigeonFart



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'France24' did a brief report on Korean drinking culture...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0mp9VXd4wQ

(report is in English)
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