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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Dealing with the Japan hate Reply with quote

Today in class, my co-teacher drew a picture of Japan on the board, but after some protests, she made it smaller.

Explaining her actions, she said, "Korea and Japan have some historical problems, so if I drew Japan bigger-" (she motions making a larger Japan) "-all the kids would protest!"

Then for five minutes she taught the class about how Japanese people can't say "computer" and "McDonalds" and "ha ha" isn't that funny.

I will not stand for this type of behavior in my class. I always include questions about Japan on any PPT I do, and when kids give me attitude about Japan, I ignore it.

It's one thing when the students do it, because honestly, they're just taking what they see from their parents, teachers, etc. But when a co-teacher who has actually spent time in Japan and speaks some Japanese reinforces this type of ridiculous behavior, I cannot stand for it.

Every time they find out I went to Uni in Japan, my coworkers ask me to compare. Compare this, compare that. Who is better? Who is smarter? Who is this? Who is that? It's getting on my last nerves.

I don't want to be rude, but I can't sit back and let the stereotyping and blame continue.

Any suggestions?
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beercanman



Joined: 16 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might change someday, long after we are dead. The land of grudges never forgets.
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bish



Joined: 09 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Dealing with the Japan hate Reply with quote

kabrams wrote:


Every time they find out I went to Uni in Japan, my coworkers ask me to compare. Compare this, compare that. Who is better? Who is smarter? Who is this? Who is that? It's getting on my last nerves.


Just tell them the truth. I don't know why they even bother to ask this...
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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:14 am    Post subject: Re: Dealing with the Japan hate Reply with quote

bish wrote:
kabrams wrote:


Every time they find out I went to Uni in Japan, my coworkers ask me to compare. Compare this, compare that. Who is better? Who is smarter? Who is this? Who is that? It's getting on my last nerves.


Just tell them the truth. I don't know why they even bother to ask this...


I've only been here for three months! How am I supposed to know who is better at what?

They ask me stuff like, "Which kids are better at English--Koreans or Japanese?" and I'm like, seeing as I wasn't an English teacher in Japan, I have no idea.

It's so frustrating. Blatant (racism?) hate.
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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I think it's a it unfair to just slam it as racism off the bat. The Japanese forcibly occupied this land and subjugated the population.

This is not an excuse, but must be taken into account on one level.

Another important thing is that it is important not to bring the more modern ideals of political correctness with you to Korea. The US didn't have them in the 60's and Korea doesn't have them now. It is simply unrealistic and unfair to expect students norms and values to adjust to your own more modern and arguably enlightened set of values that your society has imbued in you.

Saying that, the same thing gets on my nerves, but to fight it is in vain. You are not part of their society and they are not going to adhere to your opinion. The longer you are here, the more you will realise this (I don't mean that to sound patronising. I personally didn't fully appreciate this until after about 6 months in, although I was always aware of it on a superficial level.)
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also find that dealing with those topics is best done on a one to one basis. If you are talking to 2+ people, mob mentality sets in. No one will be willing to go against the norm and appear weak or traitorous.

People are much more open to new ideas if they are alone.
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warren pease



Joined: 12 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The majority of my students named Japan as their favorite foreign country when I asked them.
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kirsi



Joined: 29 May 2009
Location: dongtan

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find the korea hate really sad, too. I was a Japanese major at university and would love to go back there asap..

i was talking with my director (who otherwise seems to be extremely nice and helpful) and he was telling me that when he was younger people said that he looked japanese. he said "i hated that because i hate japanese". it was sad and i didn't know what to say Sad

but last night i went to a restaurant and the table of girls next to us was a bunch of japanese here for a visit. and my japanese is awesome when i've been drinking, haha XD
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exit86



Joined: 17 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pretend not to know anything about the issue--as if Japan were any other nation deserving of respect for its culture, customs and people.

Stupidity and hatred have trouble existing if they aren't acknowledged.

I am somewhat of a Japanophile too.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some cultures/peoples just don't like each other. Indians/Pakistanis. Serbians/Croatians. Protestants/Catholics in Ireland. French/Everyone else. Koreans/Japanese. Hmong/Vietnamese. Northern Italians/Southern Italians.


Honestlly, I don't know where you get the "Japanese hate". Most Koreans (and most of my high school students) want to visit Japan, study there, or even live there.

Hell, 70% of the students at my high school are studying Japanese. The other 30% are split over French, German, and Chinese. I'm at a Korean High School by the way.


You must teach Elementary school. By Middle School most students realize that Japan isn't as "evil" as they thought. By high school most students want to go there to visit. By the time they graduate University they want to live there.
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roadwork



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Goin' up the country

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

French/Everyone else...CLASSIC!!! (but true)

Lest we forget the hate of all hates -- Israelis and Palestinians
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

warren pease wrote:
The majority of my students named Japan as their favorite foreign country when I asked them.


When we did, "Which country would you like to visit most?" Japan received approximately 85% of the votes. Of course, this has more to do with being in a sort of poorish area, I think, where a vacation to Japan (even) is a big deal. But the sentiment remains.

I don't get it much out of the kids. It's usually the old fogies who carry on about Japan. And really, I just can't blame them. It's not rational, but what old folk who's had a rough life that you've ever met goes out of his/her way to be PC?
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benji



Joined: 21 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the Tutsis and Hutus? Thats some hate. Tongans and Samoans. Mexicans and Salvadoreans.
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The Gipkik



Joined: 30 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:35 am    Post subject: Re: Dealing with the Japan hate Reply with quote

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Konglishman



Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

benji wrote:
What about the Tutsis and Hutus? Thats some hate. Tongans and Samoans. Mexicans and Salvadoreans.


Don't forget about cats and dogs... That rivalry goes back to the dawn of civilization.
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