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oldenew



Joined: 25 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:45 pm    Post subject: Old New Guy Reply with quote

Hi all,

I am looking for a new adventure in life and I am wondering about Korea as a means of fullfilment. I'm 50 years old and just retired from the military after 30 years. Therefore, money is not the tipping point.

Any suggestions about where is a great place. Korea? Japan? SE Asia? I'm young at heart and despite the trials and tribulations of life I still maintain a positive attitude about pretty much everything.
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typo



Joined: 16 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, if money isn't an issue I probably wouldn't go to korea. Go to Thailand or Nepal or somewhere neat. Korea isn't neat. Even Japan, perhaps.

Just my two cents. I'm getting out after a year next month--I think one year is more than enough. Not that I didn't have a good time, but I just can't see myself getting much more out of Korea than I have this year. This could be because I met some cool Korean friends my first couple weeks here and picked up a lot of Korean culture more quickly than other foreigners.

There's also some societal...quirks...that really rub me the wrong way.

If I were you, I'd hti up Thailand. You could get a laid back job teaching (not making any money more than covering your expenses, but in your situation you don't need to worry about that.)

In any case, welcome and good luck in whichever endeavor you pursue.
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warren pease



Joined: 12 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea's a cool place to live. In my opinion, the people who complain about Korea are the same people who complain about their home towns and who complain about their cars and who complain about the weather and who....

It's not Utopia but the vast majority of the Koreans I've met have been genuinely nice and infinitely more patient of us foreigners than we are of them back home.

Perhaps with your military experience the idea of moving to a foreign country isn't that overwhelming, but if you are at all nervous about setting up shop overseas Korea(ns) make(s) it very easy. It is completely normal for your school to set you up with an apartment, a bank account, basic furniture, and physically walk you down to the subway and show you how it works. On top of that, there is probably going to be someone at your school to answer all your daily questions and help you with day to day problems. If you work in a large school there may be a person whose sole job it is to do just that.

Outside of Seoul (I'm not really a city boy) Korea is a beautiful country. Beautiful beaches and some great mountains for hiking can be less than a mile apart and a short walk from subway and bus stops.

Good luck
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stay way from Korea unless you need the cash. I would teach in China for a few years at the university level because the workload is so easy. Thailand is fun and Vietnam can be interesting.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

50 is not so old compared to some of us codgers on this forum. But you might give us more information -- are you looking for a second career, or a way to have an adventure for a year or so?

If you are looking to get settled, Korea is not a bad place to live for a few years. I honestly think that Koreans treat older foreigners better. It is a good launching point for vacations all over SE Asia.

If you are looking for something lighter in commitment, as the other posters are saying, you might try Thailand or even Vietnam. I taught ESL in Mexico for a year and had a blast, and there is a large ESL industry most people do not seem to know about in Central and South America. If you are financially settled you could also think about volunteer work, which could take you almost anywhere you like.

Ken:>
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoul, Pyeongtaek or Oijeongbu would be great for you because you'd have base access (PX and class six would be clutch) and medical/dental. If you're married, that would be good for your family. Single? Still something to consider.

A university job would allow you to travel a couple of months a year at least, and the smaller universities in smaller urban and rural areas near some bases hire people with just a BA/BS. If you have your MA, that would help, but you never know.

Personally, while Thailand is a great place to vacation, there's no way I'd work there; too hot and humid.

Good luck on your search. Korea would work well for someone in your situation and positive outlook, especially if money weren't a major issue.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Old New Guy Reply with quote

oldenew wrote:
Hi all,

I am looking for a new adventure in life and I am wondering about Korea as a means of fullfilment. I'm 50 years old and just retired from the military after 30 years. Therefore, money is not the tipping point.

Any suggestions about where is a great place. Korea? Japan? SE Asia? I'm young at heart and despite the trials and tribulations of life I still maintain a positive attitude about pretty much everything.


Do you have a college degree? teaching experience?
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oldenew



Joined: 25 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:24 am    Post subject: Re: Old New Guy Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
oldenew wrote:
Hi all,

I am looking for a new adventure in life and I am wondering about Korea as a means of fullfilment. I'm 50 years old and just retired from the military after 30 years. Therefore, money is not the tipping point.

Any suggestions about where is a great place. Korea? Japan? SE Asia? I'm young at heart and despite the trials and tribulations of life I still maintain a positive attitude about pretty much everything.


Do you have a college degree? teaching experience?


I have an MA in History, heavy into the ancient Romans and Greeks military thing. How to move masses of people, coordinate, teamwork etc etc. You'd probably more or less compare it to a leadership MA at a university today. I retired a full colonel, never any "formal" teaching perse, but lots of leadership obviously.

I have been around to say the least, not worried about going somewhere I haven't seen before. I just want to add to a pretty good plate of experiences thus far. I'm not a party animal, 50 and all, but I knew a handfulof sergeants and captains I could drink under the table on a good night!
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not a party animal, 50 and all, but I knew a handfulof sergeants and captains I could drink under the table on a good night!

Well, then you will fit right in around here! Cool

Ken:>
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beercanman



Joined: 16 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moldy Rutabaga wrote:
. I honestly think that Koreans treat older foreigners better.


I'd agree with this from limited experience even if the schools often prefer the younger ones. On the streets, in public that is, the older guys I knew never seemed to get much hassle, or start much and seemed to be treated just fine most of the time at least. In fact hanging out with a guy who was near 20 years older than me often made it easier to talk to locals, who perhaps seemed curious about our friendship (?) when we'd drink a few beers near a 7/11 or whatever.
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xingyiman



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can find a school that likes you you'll be ok or at least unitl your health issues begin to negate your worth if that indeed never happens. But your best chances are in the private sector. In my experience public schools like the youngins.
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asams



Joined: 17 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you looked into teaching on the military bases in these countries? I know you just got out of the Army, but this is offered to civilians and seems like you would have quite a bit of time to travel and such. Plus, that way you would be guaranteed a spot near Uijeongbu (kinda crappy city), in Seoul, Pyeongtaek or Osan, as far as Korean is concerned
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Zulethe



Joined: 04 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's from someone who has been on both sides of the coin. I first came to Korea fresh out of college back in 1993.

Fast forward 15 years later I'm back and my experience this time is infintely better now. I think the best time to come to Korea is when you're in your 40s and 50s.

There are many reasons for this and the respect for age is a huge one. When I was younger, I was seen as a threat to a lot of the younger male Koreans. Now that I'm older, I am not perceived as a threat and I'm treated much better and I get away with a lot more.

At my school, I come and go as I please, teach whatever I want and I'm not bothered at all by my co-teachers, principle etc...

I think it's awesome you're considering teaching. I teach elementary school kids and I love it. My largest class has only fifteen students so I'm really making a lot of progress. Stay far away from middle school and I personally wouldn't do high school either but that's a preference you'll have to make on your own.


I would definitely choose Korea or Japan over southeast asia just because I hate the feel of being in a poor country sourrounded by poverty and squalor.
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typo



Joined: 16 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldnewguy: you sound like a cool cat. I stand by the idea that you probably should look elsewhere, but I'm mid 20's and broke, so our situations are a bit different.

For your sanity, if you do move here, stay off dave's. it's a black hole.
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oldenew



Joined: 25 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

typo wrote:
oldnewguy: you sound like a cool cat. I stand by the idea that you probably should look elsewhere, but I'm mid 20's and broke, so our situations are a bit different.

For your sanity, if you do move here, stay off dave's. it's a black hole.


Thanks for the vote! I'd like to think I'm a cool cat. I am, to the best of my knowledge, the first and only military person in my family tree. I simply wanted something different. They paid for the education, paid me while I went to university, and guaranteed me a good job with awesome benefits right out of uni. I didn't plan on staying that long, but time just sort of slid by.

I like kids, I have a head full of stories and tales to keep them interested. I think teaching young ones might be a lot of fun.
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