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aishiii
Joined: 24 Apr 2009
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 Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:23 am Post subject: Tribe learning Hangul to visit Seoul |
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http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2914096
What are they trying to accomplish?
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The Cia-Cia tribe, an ethnic group of 60,000 on a remote island in Indonesia, will visit Seoul from Dec. 21 to 26, to expand cultural exchanges with the Seoul city government, city officials announced yesterday.
Seoul Mayor Oh Se-hoon and Bau-Bau city Mayor Amirul Tamim are scheduled to sign a memorandum of understanding to increase cultural and public service exchanges on Dec. 22.
The Cia-Cia delegation will consist of nine members that include Mayor Tamim and schoolteachers and students from the Cia-Cia tribe.
On Dec. 23, the delegation will visit Gwanghwamun Plaza in central Seoul where �The Story of King Sejong,� an underground exhibition hall to remember achievements of Hangul creator King Sejong the Great of the Joseon Dynasty, is located. |
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Forever
Joined: 12 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:13 am Post subject: |
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Koreans dream that one day - the Worlds Global language will be "Korean".
So, they are starting with one very small island at a time. |
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aishiii
Joined: 24 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:24 am Post subject: |
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The thing is they seem not to be stopping at language, and seem to be pushing their culture on them as well.
Really, how is learning Korean going to benefit these people in the future? |
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janafromfrance
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| aishiii wrote: |
The thing is they seem not to be stopping at language, and seem to be pushing their culture on them as well.
Really, how is learning Korean going to benefit these people in the future? |
they can learn great things, like how to push your way out of a store, or how to put toilet paper in a tin trash can instead of in the TOILET 
actually, this is really really sad. the blind being led by the......blind. |
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:51 am Post subject: |
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You guys are really being ridiculous. An idea should be judged on its merit as opposed to your feelings towards the individual or group behind the idea. The fact is that the Hangul alphabet is widely regarded by linguists as being very scientific in its design. So, introducing Hangul as a competitor to the Latin alphabet for writing previously unwritten languages, seems like a rather good idea to me.
Incidentally, here is a link to the Cia-Cia language. It is interesting to note that the Hangul letter ㅸ, which is no longer used in the Korea language, was resurrected for the Cia-Cia language.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cia-Cia_language
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Tundra_Creature
Joined: 11 Jun 2009
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So, essentially you guys are just sore because they didn't choose the alphabet you wanted and it's not missionaries or some form of western society leading them this time?
I know Korea ain't perfect, and yeah, they may have an alterior motive, but hey, at least they're helping to preserve a language and culture. If the Hangeul system works for that group of people, then so be it. |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| janafromfrance wrote: |
actually, this is really really sad. the blind being led by the......blind. |
What they really need is some enlightened person like yourself, to lead them through the darkness  |
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mcviking
Joined: 24 Mar 2009
Location: 'Fantastic' America
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| Even from a hater these responses sound a little sore and xenophobic. Koreans helping out other countries = good. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:18 am Post subject: |
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| Tundra_Creature wrote: |
So, essentially you guys are just sore because they didn't choose the alphabet you wanted and it's not missionaries or some form of western society leading them this time?
I know Korea ain't perfect, and yeah, they may have an alterior motive, but hey, at least they're helping to preserve a language and culture. If the Hangeul system works for that group of people, then so be it. |
thank you |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| mcviking wrote: |
| Even from a hater these responses sound a little sore and xenophobic. Koreans helping out other countries = good. |
You think the motivation was pure altruism?
Sad and delusional Korean nationalism has led to this campaign to spread hangeul around the world. Koreans don't actually give a damn about tribal people who don't have any 'ranking' in any important tables. They just make good subjects for the spread of glorious Hangeul.
What I wonder when I see these stories of Koreans spreading Hangeul to primitive peoples is what those people will think when or if they ever go further afield than their isolated part of the world.......I suspect they'll think, "crap! We've been conned into learning the script of a small North-Asian country when the rest of the world are learning the Roman alphabet!!" |
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mcviking
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:38 am Post subject: |
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| If I go feed homeless people because its some sort of tax write off or a manditory court ordered community service the homeless peoplen still get those ham sandwiches right? A bebefit is a benefit, besides they will have plenty of time to learn English if they so choose to. |
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aishiii
Joined: 24 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:00 am Post subject: |
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The Hunminjeongeum Society (훈민정음학회), sometimes called the "Hunminjeongeum Research Institute" in English-language newspaper accounts, is a private organization in Seoul dedicated to the propagation of hangul to all the unwritten languages of the world.[1] (Hunminjeongeum was the original name of hangul.) The society was founded by Lee Ki-nam, a retired real-estate agent, in 2007, after she had failed to bring hangul to the Tungusic Oroqen of Heilongjiang, China; the Chepang of Nepal; and the Lahu of Chiang Mai, Thailand; she attributed these failures to a reliance on Korean Christian missionaries in those countries, whose primary focus was not linguistics or literacy.[1]
The society, chaired by linguistics professor Kim Ju-won of Seoul National University, and its current focus is on countries which send large number of people to work in Korea. In 2009 it succeeded in getting the city of Bau-Bau, on Buton Island in Sulawesi, Indonesia, to adopt hangul for the Cia-Cia language. The society has published a series of hangul Cia-Cia textbooks for use in schools, using an orthography designed by Kim,[2] and are now working on getting hangul accepted by other communities on the island of Buton. They plan on opening a Korean cultural center, and to send Korean-language teachers to Bau-Bau. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| As long as they aren't using Arabic to write anymore I'm happy. That's just about the worst script for pretty much any language but Arabic itself. |
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
| As long as they aren't using Arabic to write anymore I'm happy. That's just about the worst script for pretty much any language but Arabic itself. |
I concur. I dislike any kind of writing with a cursive-like form, including cursive itself. In my opinion, the most beautiful and readable alphabets are the Latin alphabet along with its derivatives, the Korean Hangul alphabet, and the Burmese alphabet. |
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greene
Joined: 11 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: |
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hangul takes, what? 2 hours to learn?
probably my favorite thing i've learned in korea |
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