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Is it possible that asmith is wrong?

 
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Is asmith wrong?
yes
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no
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maybe
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who cares?
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:30 am    Post subject: Is it possible that asmith is wrong? Reply with quote

http://www.wooribank.com/

I remitted, today, at 1222.34. It's going down ladies! Unlike what asmith has been preaching!!!!!
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if I have read asmith comment on the KRW/USD exchange rate. But I would guess he would pick a massive devaluation in the USD some time soon. That would mean you would be getting your USDs for 800won but unfortunately that USD wouldn't actually buy you anything.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am hoping that if the greenback plunges, it drags down the CDN dollar with it.
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Epicurus



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: Is it possible that asmith is wrong? Reply with quote

cubanlord wrote:
http://www.wooribank.com/

I remitted, today, at 1222.34. It's going down ladies! Unlike what asmith has been preaching!!!!!



I've been "fading" (that's a market term for taking the opposite side of a trade) asmith for quite some time.

and I'm going to continue doing so.

the US dollar is the currency that is going to take a dump.

the problem with the won is yes.. it will strengthen, but not nearly as much as everything else.

I already get enraged when I read the moronic Korea Times article about how the currency has ben "strong".

it's still almost 30% OFF from its winter of 2007 levels!!!!

Most other currencies which also got whacked when the ddong hit the fan are off 20% or less.

I'd convert my won into euros.. but that's horrifically painful.

The problem is it will only get much more painful.
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Epicurus



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
I'm not sure if I have read asmith comment on the KRW/USD exchange rate. But I would guess he would pick a massive devaluation in the USD some time soon. That would mean you would be getting your USDs for 800won but unfortunately that USD wouldn't actually buy you anything.


asmith writes a very amusing blog but his knowledge of economics much less markets is non existent.

he bases his won crash prediction on merely his belief that the US economy will crash once again, and his belief that the Korean currency/economy is completely dependent on America's fate.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epicurus wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
I'm not sure if I have read asmith comment on the KRW/USD exchange rate. But I would guess he would pick a massive devaluation in the USD some time soon. That would mean you would be getting your USDs for 800won but unfortunately that USD wouldn't actually buy you anything.


asmith writes a very amusing blog but his knowledge of economics much less markets is non existent.

he bases his won crash prediction on merely his belief that the US economy will crash once again, and his belief that the Korean currency/economy is completely dependent on America's fate.


Whereas Cubanlord is a powerhouse of economic knowledge who has a clear grasp of what 'stronger' and 'weaker' mean in relation to currencies. Actually he used the word 'down' but that really really needs to be qualified by an explanation of what the writer's definition of 'down' is.
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
Epicurus wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
I'm not sure if I have read asmith comment on the KRW/USD exchange rate. But I would guess he would pick a massive devaluation in the USD some time soon. That would mean you would be getting your USDs for 800won but unfortunately that USD wouldn't actually buy you anything.


asmith writes a very amusing blog but his knowledge of economics much less markets is non existent.

he bases his won crash prediction on merely his belief that the US economy will crash once again, and his belief that the Korean currency/economy is completely dependent on America's fate.


Whereas Cubanlord is a powerhouse of economic knowledge who has a clear grasp of what 'stronger' and 'weaker' mean in relation to currencies. Actually he used the word 'down' but that really really needs to be qualified by an explanation of what the writer's definition of 'down' is.


LOL. Okay. When I said the word "down", I meant that the WON is actually getting stronger, as in, it's going down to previous levels. E.G. 1250 to 1200 = going down/getting stronger.

There, do I still have my powerhouse label? I never thought I'd be bestowed such an honor!
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Deep Thirteen



Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Swamp Land

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have trouble believing anyone who is a self-described prophet, thread-jacks on an ESL forum, and writes a blog full of mundane events laced with expletives.

If he is right, it will just be an ego boost for him much like the accolades he gets from his blog, so I don't care. I do get a laugh out of the sheer predictability of his economic posts though.
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm stocking up on soju, ramyun and barterable goods.
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Epicurus



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what people that don't have a clue don't understand about why the dollar strengthened so dramatically and drastically vs everything else when the ddong hit the fan is the following:

it was a full flight panic.
A flight to safety and a flight to liquidity.
And a liquidation of all other trades and bets, which typically involved being invested in non dollar assets.

all because everyone and their grandmother wanted to pile into Treasury Bills. (still the safest "paper"/instrument on earth)


as the markets bottomed out and some semblance of rational thinking returned... people resumed their look at the fundamentals and those had gotten even worse in the interim as the interest rate in the US is zero or lower (thru quantitative easing) and their debt/aka printing paper money has exploded.

Which means you buy gold and sell the USD.

and that's precisely what has happened.. and almost as dramatically in the opposite direction since March.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we are taking the blog too seriously. Asmith doesn't claim to be an economist. He has fun making these rants. I like the blog a lot.

I think he half-means what he says, though, that the American economy is in decline. This is a longer term event than just little ups and downs in the dollar value. I don't agree that this decline is necessarily permanent, though; hopefully it is a decades-long transition into a slightly different type of economy. The British had to get used to not being the center of the universe a century ago, and North America will too. Maybe there will no longer be a center in a globalized economy.

Ken:>
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if asmith reads this dude....
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1439-WARNING-Deflationary-Collapse-Dead-Ahead.html

But he sounds a lot like him. If you want a good (but often hyper-technical), run down of what has happened and what is likely to happen, you could do a lot worse than this guy.
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kg2095



Joined: 23 May 2009
Location: Hwaseong City

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it possible that asmith is wrong? Reply with quote

I like asmith and his blog but I think he is completely wrong about the economy.

I remember during the stagflation of the 70s that people were saying that it was then end of the American century and there was talk about replacing the US dollar as the world currency.

Then prosperity returned in the 80s followed by another recession: once again its the beginning of the end etc. This was of course followed by the longest period of prosperity in US history.

History does repeat.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/16/opinion/16friedman.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
Interesting article.

Ken:>
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Epicurus



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moldy Rutabaga wrote:
I think we are taking the blog too seriously. Asmith doesn't claim to be an economist. He has fun making these rants. I like the blog a lot.

I think he half-means what he says, though, that the American economy is in decline. This is a longer term event than just little ups and downs in the dollar value. I don't agree that this decline is necessarily permanent, though; hopefully it is a decades-long transition into a slightly different type of economy. The British had to get used to not being the center of the universe a century ago, and North America will too. Maybe there will no longer be a center in a globalized economy.

Ken:>


the decline of the American economy and the exchange rate of the dollar, (even against the won) are not intertwined.

As a matter of fact, a steady decline (rather than complete panic which already happened) argues for selling the USD, even against the won.
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