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Where are these xenophobic and racist people?
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject: Where are these xenophobic and racist people? Reply with quote

I always here about them on dave's but nobody ever mentions them in person nor have I run into any of them....

Maybe it's moreso directed at the white guys and Indians, but I can't say I've been treated badly by anyone here.

I've been to others countries like China which people on here claim "love foreigners" but I can't say I was treated significantly nicer there...not to mention attempts to rip me off or scream my head off once they realized I wasn't going to throw money at them....

I've been to rural and traveled around korea a bit...where are this racist hicks I keep hearing about?
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xingyiman



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Where are these xenophobic and racist people? Reply with quote

Ukon wrote:
I always here about them on dave's but nobody ever mentions them in person nor have I run into any of them....

Maybe it's moreso directed at the white guys and Indians, but I can't say I've been treated badly by anyone here.

I've been to others countries like China which people on here claim "love foreigners" but I can't say I was treated significantly nicer there...not to mention attempts to rip me off or scream my head off once they realized I wasn't going to throw money at them....

I've been to rural and traveled around korea a bit...where are this racist hicks I keep hearing about?


Take a weekend trip to Pohang.
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Where are these xenophobic and racist people? Reply with quote

xingyiman wrote:

Take a weekend trip to Pohang.



Hmmm... I lived in Pohang for four years and I didn't have any problems.
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xingyiman



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Where are these xenophobic and racist people? Reply with quote

bluelake wrote:
xingyiman wrote:

Take a weekend trip to Pohang.



Hmmm... I lived in Pohang for four years and I didn't have any problems.


I'm happy for you. I experienced nothing but backwoods racism.
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tenchu77491



Joined: 16 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only crap I felt was from other foreigners.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are plenty of Koreans with strange perceptions about foreigners that range from quaint all the way to outright offensive. You need to look on Korean web forums. My gf tells me some of the stuff on there that is amazing. One woman was scared she might have swine flu. Why? Because she went to Itaewon.
There are websites dedicated to K-girls with foreign boyfriends and they attract the vitriol of xenophobic men. Some nasty comments on there about us, mostly derived from the negative media reports.
The xenophobia is definitely there, you just need to open your eyes a bit more.
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xingyiman



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
There are plenty of Koreans with strange perceptions about foreigners that range from quaint all the way to outright offensive. You need to look on Korean web forums. My gf tells me some of the stuff on there that is amazing. One woman was scared she might have swine flu. Why? Because she went to Itaewon.
There are websites dedicated to K-girls with foreign boyfriends and they attract the vitriol of xenophobic men. Some nasty comments on there about us, mostly derived from the negative media reports.
The xenophobia is definitely there, you just need to open your eyes a bit more.


I've found that the number of racist people in Seoul as opposed to rural Korea is probably not remarkably different. In the rural area they are just more in-your-face about it.
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redaxe



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:

The xenophobia is definitely there, you just need to open your eyes a bit more.


As I like to say, "no brains, no headaches"
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Manuel_the_Bandito



Joined: 12 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Where are these xenophobic and racist people? Reply with quote

Ukon wrote:
I always here about them on dave's but nobody ever mentions them in person nor have I run into any of them....

Maybe it's moreso directed at the white guys and Indians, but I can't say I've been treated badly by anyone here.

I've been to others countries like China which people on here claim "love foreigners" but I can't say I was treated significantly nicer there...not to mention attempts to rip me off or scream my head off once they realized I wasn't going to throw money at them....

I've been to rural and traveled around korea a bit...where are this racist hicks I keep hearing about?


It appears someone's never walked around with a Korean girlfriend.
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

redaxe wrote:
cj1976 wrote:

The xenophobia is definitely there, you just need to open your eyes a bit more.


As I like to say, "no brains, no headaches"


What do you mean by that?
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
redaxe wrote:
cj1976 wrote:

The xenophobia is definitely there, you just need to open your eyes a bit more.


As I like to say, "no brains, no headaches"


What do you mean by that?


I mean that ignorance is bliss.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not many Koreans actually have pre-meditated racist feelings or even xenophobia. Korea being quite an insular society, we are off most people's radar.....

........so what you tend to get, and this is the only thing that actually bothers me much after 9 years in Korea, is an ignorance of the rest of the world and an intolerance of the possibility of doing anything different from what they've always done. As well as quite a few preconceptions of what foreigners are like. Probably from the movies or from misinformed elders.

The hagwon generation, those born about 1990, are much better. Some of the kids in my neighborhood talk to me in an absolutely natural manner, whereas, when their parents come along, it's all awkward smiles and, 'do you like kimchi'?
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mixed in with all the Koreans who make a big deal about knowing someone foreign and feeling pride in the fact that they had a 5 minute conversation with someone foreign.

For every xenophobe there are one of those "Hey look at my foreign friend" types.

And for every "look at my foreign friend" and "get off my lawn foreigner" there are 4 people who could care less and have food/drink/sex/money on the brain.
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Where are these xenophobic and racist people? Reply with quote

Manuel_the_Bandito wrote:
Ukon wrote:
I always here about them on dave's but nobody ever mentions them in person nor have I run into any of them....

Maybe it's moreso directed at the white guys and Indians, but I can't say I've been treated badly by anyone here.

I've been to others countries like China which people on here claim "love foreigners" but I can't say I was treated significantly nicer there...not to mention attempts to rip me off or scream my head off once they realized I wasn't going to throw money at them....

I've been to rural and traveled around korea a bit...where are this racist hicks I keep hearing about?


It appears someone's never walked around with a Korean girlfriend.


I'm black and never had any problems doing so, or with girls on dates. No moreso than back home.

I have a funny feeling most of these complaints are really just folks who have never been a minority before...most of the staring and other stuff mentioned on daves is par for course for minorities usually.

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The hagwon generation, those born about 1990, are much better. Some of the kids in my neighborhood talk to me in an absolutely natural manner, whereas, when their parents come along, it's all awkward smiles and, 'do you like kimchi'?


Old people love me, but I speak "ok" korean so that helps. School parents tend to run away however... Laughing
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because you don't experience or don't realize it doesn't mean its not there. My friends and I have been yelled out at a few times in Seoul. Its the usual "This is Korea, speak Korean" or "Go back to your country." The weird thing about this is the how indirect they(the bigots) are about it. Even as they're screaming, I hardly see these people directly face us and look at us while doing so. Even when they do, they keep a distance and a closed posture. It never bothers me because I find it incredibly unthreatening.

So, its there, but it's not as bad as some people here make it out to be. Some of my coworkers and family members harbor violent fantasies against foreigners and other countries, but I highly doubt any of them will actually act out on it.
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