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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:28 am    Post subject: Knowing your Korean Student Reply with quote

I wish I'd had this document, "knowing your Korean student" in hand before teaching Korea students a number of years ago in Toronto.

It is from a Univ. Of Mich. press book - "Knowing your Int. Student". A handy comparative resource.

This one has lots of essential info. for any teacher teaching in Korea. Some will have some disputes with some of the info. but there is no denying this is helpful to new teachers here in Korea. So I'm posting.

Much more available in my junkyard.

DD
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: Knowing your Korean Student Reply with quote

ddeubel wrote:
Much more available in my junkyard.

DD

If you keep this up I'll have to sic the dogs on you. Wink
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stopped reading after they started talking about Kimchi. But I did see the pronunciation difficulties that students have at the end.
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vonnegutjr



Joined: 24 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This would be helpful but only to some extent. It's hard to study the 'Korean student' and publish an article on it decisively. It's like taking an online TEFL course (which I did) and then being prepared to physically give instruction. For example, this excerpt is from the article,

"There are very few discipline problems in the typical Korean classroom..." except for foreigner classes where the majority of many classes and Korean ESL careers are spent trying to adequately discipline chaos.

"For serious offenses, either students are sent to the homeroom teacher or parents are called..." or, a big wooden stick is used to beat them across the wrists, hips and back until they burst out crying.

I always appreciate a positive attitude toward ESL education. I found some interesting stuff that could be used for the next wave of new teacher's in Korea. It would clear up a lot of things quickly, instead of trial and error. However, let the new-teacher's know it is to be taken with a grain of salt...
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vonnegutjr wrote:
This would be helpful but only to some extent. It's hard to study the 'Korean student' and publish an article on it decisively. It's like taking an online TEFL course (which I did) and then being prepared to physically give instruction. For example, this excerpt is from the article,

"There are very few discipline problems in the typical Korean classroom..." except for foreigner classes where the majority of many classes and Korean ESL careers are spent trying to adequately discipline chaos.

Add As a foreigner you will not be given the same amount of respect that a Korean teacher takes for granted. It's not unusual for some students to use offensive language in front of the foreign teacher. This should never be tolerated despite the fact that the Korean teacher might say" He/She doesn't really know what it means.

Since the students are not graded for the time they spend with the foreign teachers. Many of them view the time with foreign teachers as just play time. It's useful for novice teachers to take a start hard then go soft approach.

"For serious offenses, either students are sent to the homeroom teacher or parents are called..." or, a big wooden stick is used to beat them across the wrists, hips and back until they burst out crying.

Here's where a lot of double standards come into effect. I don't think a foreign teacher would get away with this. Since foreign teachers are less physical with thier approach to discipline students feel they can get away with more.

I always appreciate a positive attitude toward ESL education. I found some interesting stuff that could be used for the next wave of new teacher's in Korea. It would clear up a lot of things quickly, instead of trial and error. However, let the new-teacher's know it is to be taken with a grain of salt...


The original article looks like something from Arirange Television. Glossing over the negative. Junk Nationalism.
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The point really isn't so much if ALL the information is accurate. The point is that like even this messageboard, it offers some information that may especially be of use to those who haven't yet worked in the Korean context. Offers that information but still is subject to that higher law of "doing it and being there".

But better to go into the reality with a little preparation and perspective than none at all. As always, caveat emptor - use a little common sense with everything. Just like this messageboard too.

DD
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http://teachingrecipes.com
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