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Bryan



Joined: 29 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:19 am    Post subject: How Do You Study Korean For Free? Reply with quote

I've looked at the prices of the full time language institutes like Sogang, Ganada and Yonsei and I don't think I can afford them. I'm in my last year of university, and when I graduate I will only have a little bit of money left. An option is getting a full time job in Korea but my goal of studying Korean is more important to me.

I was wondering if anyone has just self-studied Korean and got to a good level? Maybe, the equivalent of having graduated Sogang level 6. If so, what was your study plan like? For those who are taking the intensive autodidactic route, what is your study plan?

As far as resources, right now I have a Korean girlfriend I see on weekends. I also have a computer and a couple books to study from. For the future (next year) I was hoping just to fly to Korea and rent an apartment in Incheon or Seoul and immerse myself in the language while self-studying.
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Chambertin



Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: Gunsan

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B A R

Seriously if you have a Korean girlfreind and are asking "how to study" you clearly dont care. You have a teacher, dictionary, and all other things wrapped up into one package.

The only excuse is if she isnt natural Korean but a second or third generation who dosent want to speak Korean.
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chambertin wrote:
B A R

Seriously if you have a Korean girlfreind and are asking "how to study" you clearly dont care. You have a teacher, dictionary, and all other things wrapped up into one package.

The only excuse is if she isnt natural Korean but a second or third generation who dosent want to speak Korean.


That's a bit harsh - the OP wouldn't be posting if he didn't care. He also has a relationship, and unless she's a complete pushover (who wants to date a girl like that?) she won't appreciated being treated as a teacher and a dictionary.

As far as the study goes, I have self-studied for three years, at a fairly low intensity(2 to 12 hours a week, these days about 3 or 4), and while far from advanced (ie. can't read the newspaper at a decent pace or understand the news), I would say I have learnt a lot and am starting to pick up the language more naturally. Having said that, I have no idea what it would be like to self-study intensively.

I started off with a few different books and then started doing the Sogang Website almost exclusively. Along the way I bought a few more books, vocab ones to make lists from and the Grammar book by Yonsei. I bought some of the Sogang textbooks too, but don't like them much for self-study. I also used Koreanclass101 a bit, and read a lot of blogs etc. about the language and learning it. I've actually been kind of lost since finishing the Sogang website, so if anyone has advice on where to go from here I'd appreciate it also (sorry about the hijack).

My reading and writing would be at about Sogang Level 5 or higher judging by the 4B books which I own, but I'm sure my speaking and listening would be lower, as I don't really practice enough. I'm too lazy to actively seek out speaking practice and only do it when I have to, which is bad, but I'm just too tired after work.

I'd say that if you're dedicated to immersing yourself, and you won't find yourself speaking English all day, then there's no reason why you can't become fluent via self-study. I'm sure you can get enough feedback from Koreans to fix any mistakes or bad habits you might develop, and you can choose to learn what you feel is relevant to you. I also recommend studying hanja too.
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smjstevens



Joined: 04 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though a little underhanded, there are torrents available for the Korean Rosetta Stone software. It works well, and is entirely independent. If you're serious about really understanding the language, you have to make sure to self-correct as you go. The hardest part is the self discipline of making yourself repeat lessons that you didn't understand well enough.

Good luck! Very Happy
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to learn the language well, AND can come to Korea you can immerse yourself. This is not a luxury that us English teachers have. We work in an environment where we spend our days speaking in English to students, and surrounded by co-workers who either speak English well or are trying to improve their English.

If you come here to learn the language you should do the following:

(1) Move to a "Hasuk jib" (하숙집) with Japanese and Chinese who are also trying to learn the language; you'll get a lot of practice. One with a lot of Koreans is also good, unless they're desperately trying to learn English. Sometimes non-English speaking foreigners are BETTER than Koreans, because they're trying to learn Korean, not English.

A "goshiwon" (고시원) might also be a good bet, but might be less personal than a hasukjib, which tend to be smaller.

(2) Join some clubs. Join a Taekwando class or a cooking class or something which surrounds you with Koreans. Being able to actually practice with people who don't care about English and instead are trying to learn some other skill is very useful.

(3) Join some free Korean classes. Seoul Global center has some free Korean classes. Most neighbourhoods in Seoul have free Korean classes (usually aimed at foreign-brides, but they'll let you in)

(4) Study. This is the hardest part for most people. Most people can't study well alone; hence they take classes. If you follow the other three steps though studying will be much easier and more rewarding than for the average guy working as an English teacher.

If you do the above you can probaly get by fairly cheaply and learn a lot of the language.

Bear in mind that the language is quite hard to learn, and progress will be somewhat slow. If you really want to get to a University level 6 then taking organized classes should probably be something you plan for in the future.

Unless you're a genius it's going to take a couple of years, at least, to get to an advanced level.
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Lynns



Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if you mostly self-study, you can also jump-start your progress by signing up for short-term classes. If your motivation or progress stalls, you can attend a hagwon for about $350 for a full time course for a month (even less for part-time evening or weekend classes). Just another option if it's hard to stay on track with self-study for an extended time, but without the time and money commitment of one of the intensive university courses.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Mithridates would be the guy to talk to. He self-studied himself to fluency; he's able to translate books and can eavesdrop on conversations. My memory is hazy, but immersion was a major part of how he learned.

I don't see him here anymore, but you can probably find him on his site, Galbijim.com.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abraham House can set you up with study partners and such. There is a small 50,000 won book fee. Listen to the interview here -- it's about 3 stories down:

http://www.themidnightrunner.com
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skeeterses



Joined: 25 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bryan, my first piece of advice is to find a Korean church to attend on Sundays. Let the minister there know that you're learning Korean. If you have a regular job, eating at a Korean restaurant where the waitresses speak Korean with you will also help give you opportunities to practice Korean.

The second thing to do is to get a decent set of Korean grammar books and a book on Survival Korean to help get you up to speaking the language. And remember, there is tons of literature in the Korean language on the web whether its the Korean Bible or the free comics you can find on naver. Take full advantage of those resources.

Finally, have patience. Getting fluent will take longer than it would for Spanish but I think Korean is a worthwhile language to learn. Even if you don't find a high paying job in Korea, being able to impress your friends and family by speaking Korean is a great thing in itself.
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Bryan



Joined: 29 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chambertin wrote:
Seriously if you have a Korean girlfreind and are asking "how to study" you clearly dont care. You have a teacher, dictionary, and all other things wrapped up into one package.


I live in a small town in Canada, and my girlfriend is pretty far away in Vancouver studying at UBC. So I get to see her about 3 weekends a month. During those times I get her to help me out with a lot of studying stuff, but we mostly want to enjoy each other during our limited time together.

Anyway, that's really not enough for the level I want to get to. I want to go to Korea next year and meet her father, and look like a reasonably intelligent person who can construct normal sentences. Most importantly, I want to listen to her parents and know exactly what they're saying (as well as all other people in Korea). But if I'm running through a book or something I don't think it will translate that well to listening and speaking ability.

With that said, I can't wait until I get good enough at listening to go straight to native media to study. Although that's probably a long way off. How long? Does anyone know?

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I like the idea of the Korean church, there actual is one in my town. I'm an atheist, but I understand those churches are more for social interaction than anything. In my family, I know lots of non-religious people who go to the Sikh temple just to interact. There's no Korean restaurant in my town.
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roadwork



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Goin' up the country

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To add to the OP's post, what about recommending books for self study.
For me, I use the Sogang University textbook level 2A, Korean Grammar for Internation Learners (a high level book for both Korean language and the English grammar explanations) and Word by Word (is that right?) English-Korean picture dictionary - Fantastic for vocabulary.

I remember something about someone recommending "500 Korean Verbs" and saying it was a necessity. Anyone use that book?
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skeeterses



Joined: 25 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listening is always the hardest part and I can't say there's any easy answer. The YTN news site provides online videos with their news articles and the website http://www.holybible.or.kr has the audio with the Bible. It will help you understand the formal Korean, the jondaemal. Understanding conversations between Koreans though will require a lot more work.
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mc_jc



Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to listen on my students as they translated my lessons to their classmates and I picked up my vocabulary. Then once I learned to read Korea, going to see a movie with Korean subtitles helped alot (the biggest challenge was watching Chinese and Japanese movies and trying to read the subtitles).

Right now, I have to make do with Rosetta Stone, which I get for free through Skillport.
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jsk



Joined: 31 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I highly recommend two books in a series:

Korean Made Easy For Beginners
Korean Made Easy For Everyday Life
by Seung-eun Oh

It's tempting to blow through the books because they look rather simple. But taking the time to memorize each phrase and vocabulary is much more helpful for me. My problem is recall, not recognition (I can comprehend about half of spoken Korean).

Also another helpful and free website mentioned on this site is Seoul National University's online study guide. The drills are useful:

http://language.snu.ac.kr/english/pages/SD00023_00.jsp
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Joined: 24 May 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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