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F2's (by marriage) who controls your finances?
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big_fella1



Joined: 08 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: F2's (by marriage) who controls your finances? Reply with quote

Just a quick question to the F2's who controls the finances in your family?

I have thus far retained control of the finances, I am able to pay all our bills using Internet Banking and I budget 'pocket money' for both my wife and myself.

Am I being a bad husband? Am I making my life more difficult? Am I culturally insensitive?
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean tradition is husband works and hands over the pay-packet to wife.
You don't have to follow the tradition,but your wife maybe suffering silently because she can't hold up her head during ajumma gatherings.
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meangradin



Joined: 10 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the tone of your post, you seem aware that in Korea it's traditionally the wife's job to control the finances. But whatever works for you and your wife is cool. I teach a Senior VP of a major Korean corporation and his wife controls all their money.

I know some will say that it is suicide to let your K'n wife control the money, blah blah blah. Personally speaking, if I didn't trust my wife 100%, I wouldn't have married her.
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Changwon Charlie



Joined: 22 Aug 2009
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We both work and make nice money so "pocket money" has never been a concern.

Basically we give each other 700K a month spending money (ie. lunches, drinks, clothes,etc) and when we go out for dinner we credit card it.

We have put 5 million won into an account for emergencies and basically bank and invest the rest (about 6 million a month in the various investments)

Of course there are exceptions (like birthdays, vacations, special occasions) and sometimes I need a top-up but we both have full access to all accounts and it works very well.

Never had a problem.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep control of those purse strings as long as you can, my friend. Trust me on this one.
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NightSky



Joined: 19 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meangradin wrote:
Personally speaking, if I didn't trust my wife 100%, I wouldn't have married her.


a nice but rather naive answer considering the divorce rate these days.

not many people enter into marital bliss together thinking of the darker times, but they happen. it's better not to think "it will never happen to me".
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

redaxe wrote:
Keep control of those purse strings as long as you can, my friend. Trust me on this one.


What's wrong with both "controling" the money? I do not buy into the "it's korean tradition" that the woman controls the money at all. I have been here long enough to know that is not true. Maybe it was that way many many years ago, it is not true any longer.
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cornholio1



Joined: 26 Apr 2007
Location: Bupyeong

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:32 pm    Post subject: f2's Reply with quote

I let my wife control it all and I have to say it's not great. I need to hide some from her to save it. I make a good deal of money on my own, the wife stays home and watches our 2 year old. She seems to find uses for everybit of my seven mill a month. I teach some privates on the side and I squirrel about half of that away everytime. Luckily my morning job is a bit dodgy on the paydates so I tell her that I only got half a paycheck and save the rest. korean women, like American women love to spend money, hold on, I think everywoman likes to spend money. So there's no question about racism. It's how you handle it yourself. Korean women in general will be a bit miffed if you don't try to follow the korean tradition. You know what they say"When in Rome." but for the op, I make a lot of money and have an f-2 with a child half-half and still can't get a credit card. how did you get yours?
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exit86



Joined: 17 May 2006

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would also advise new husbands to take care of the main finances yourself. My wife and I both work; I pay all the bills when they come in;
and, I pay for vacations. Why does the wife need to do anything in this type of situation, besides the silly "supposed to" excuse?
I'm a big boy, and I've lived on my own far longer than my wife has; therefore, I have far more experience and am the more qualified individual to take care of such things.
Problem solved.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've controlled the money for about the past 5-6 years. My wife did a bit of a bad job of it early on, so I had to take control of it. I think whoever takes better control should be the one to keep up with it.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Currently, it's a shared thing, but she makes more money than me.

If she were ever to quit work, I'd probably let her do it.

Andrewchon was right... the other ajumma will chide your wife about it if they find out. We never had problems with this arrangement until some coworkers started telling my wife that if she didn't control the money, then I may as well be her roommate.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:33 am    Post subject: Re: f2's Reply with quote

cornholio1 wrote:
....Korean women in general will be a bit miffed if you don't try to follow the korean tradition. You know what they say "When in Rome." but for the op, I make a lot of money and have an f-2 with a child half-half and still can't get a credit card. how did you get yours?

Wives Found Far Richer Than Their Spouses
Chosun Ilbo (March 21, 2001)
http://www.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200102/200102150006.html
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87.2% of married men and women replied they do have money that they manage without the knowledge of their spouses. Duo announced the average of these personal funds was W3.4 million for men and W14.4 million for women.....

More Women Keep Secret Stash of Money
Chosun Ilbo (June 6, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200506/200506060001.html
Quote:
Why are women creating secret funds? There were many responses, but about a third said the money was for themselves, such as when they suddenly need to travel. "The knowledge that I have money I can use for myself at any time gives me freedom," was a typical response. Roughly a quarter said they were saving the money for emergencies, such as accidents or illnesses, while a smaller number said they were saving money for their parents and siblings or to supplement their children's private education. Two or three admitted they were saving in preparation for a divorce....


Most Women Quit Work to Get Married
Chosun Ilbo (March 22, 2006)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200603/200603220029.html

Sex Matters to Women Who Say It Doesn't: Study
Chosun Ilbo (October 26, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200510/200510260017.html
Quote:
a mere 4.4 percent of women thought sex was important in marriage, compared with 77 percent of men -- almost as many as the 74.8 percent of women who said it was unimportant. A substantial 20.2 percent said maybe it mattered (compared to 14 percent of men), but only 2 percent of married men said sex did not matter. When asked if prostitutes are needed to satisfy men's sexual needs, 20.4 percent of women and 61 percent of men agreed....

"When in Rome."
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big_fella1



Joined: 08 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: f2's Reply with quote

cornholio1 wrote:
I make a lot of money and have an f-2 with a child half-half and still can't get a credit card. how did you get yours?


I am afraid to say I got my credit card (Samsung Card) whilst on an E2 because I had a job with one of the major chains. If you really want an unsecured card (especially as those folk over at KEB require a security deposit but still put you on the 26.5% interest rate)

I could suggest you take a job briefly with one of the chains and then quit once your card is approved.

Another method is to go shopping (yes branch to branch), Shinhan is actively targeting foreigners for cards at the moment, Hana has been known to do it, some Nonghyup managers will do it as well.

The final method is to put the card in your wifes name.

I have heard the saying: When in Rome..... but I believe that ends: do better than the Romans do.

When my wife can show me an excel spreadsheet budget until the end of 2010 (yes I am that interesting) maybe I could relinquish the control until then its my responsibilty........
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winterwawa



Joined: 06 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought into the k-wife holding the money when I was married. I was married and now divorced from 2 K-wives. I also wanted to be a good husband. Total loss, 80,000,000 won. Yes, that's right, I said 80 million. And that is just the cash that I know about. Also lost a car, a house full of furniture and lots of personal stuff.

My vote, let her squirm at the ajumma gatherings.
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meangradin



Joined: 10 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hesitate to believe that I'm the only guy on this forum who has a wife that actually makes and saves money. My wife is, well, for lack of a better term, frugal. Hell, she forbid me from buying a diamond ring for her as she wanted us to put our money in to an apartment, which we were able to buy cash. Plus, she is the one that finds out about all the investment opportunities at local banks that I have no way of knowing about. We just started one plan with a bank where we invest 64 million over 8 years and get 30 million back in interest, plus the principle.

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nice but rather naive answer considering the divorce rate these days.

not many people enter into marital bliss together thinking of the darker times, but they happen. it's better not to think "it will never happen to me".


I know where you are coming from, but IMO the biggest stressor in marriage is money. We both make good money, so money is simply not a concern for us, therefore we NEVER argue (at least about money).
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