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My public school is forbidding me to go abroad for Chuseok
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crlb2006



Joined: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Seongbuk-gu, Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: My public school is forbidding me to go abroad for Chuseok Reply with quote

...I just got the word moments ago. I've already paid for an expensive ticket out. Is this happening to anyone else? Is there any recourse here, or should I just go with them on this one?

any thoughts or opinions greatly appreciated
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just go anyway. Screw them. You're not their prisonner. The reverse of let's not and say we did.
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need their permission.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can only ask us not to leave Korea. They cannot ask for your passport or bar you from leaving. Just use your ticket and go. I have plans for Chuseok and I intend to see them through. There is as much chance of catching this flu in the dirty schools we frequent every day than from anywhere else.
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crlb2006



Joined: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Seongbuk-gu, Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is there any reason to believe that I couldn't just go and come back without them knowing? if I don't catch a fever, I won't be quarentined or anything on return, right?
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Public myth says the public school is informed if we leave the country. I've no idea about the truth behind that. I'm just going to go and not say a word. If they somehow did manage to find out then apologize profusely. Always easier to apologize than seek permission. As with everything else here.

In the worst case, you might end up losing 5 sick days but no money, and have 5 bonus days off (for the quarantine period)
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pjmancktelow



Joined: 07 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just dont put the 100% details on the health card when you come back. just write the truth but omit details to make them find you. and i write really badly so they cant read it either. ou could try that.
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Missihippi



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
Location: Gwangmyeong

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Co-T said they would "write me up" because they warned me not to leave. Also, you would lose 5 vacation days for the quarantine period.

*this is of course assuming you tell them and/or are caught.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should assert your right to do what you want for your vacation. Two ways you can do this:
1) tell them to go make love to themselves (I'm not allowed to swear, but you get the idea)
2) go without telling them

Either way, go.
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Goon-Yang



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Duh

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell them swine flu is in Korea. You're just as likely to get it here as anywhere else. Then say nothing to them. Go on your trip and say nothing. Even if you are infected you can always say it happened in Korea.
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Epicurus



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm leaving. My brass knows, (and doesn't care) and no, I don't expect any quarantine when I return. They found out about it by accident but nothing was said and I was never "warned" not to go.

First of all, the threat of being "written up" is a completely idle threat. WTF does that mean, exactly?? Smile

are they going to write you up to ATEK? or what? whom? hahaha

Second, they cannot tell you where to go or not go during vacation time. By accepting their terms you logically leave yourself open to the same threat/suggestion during your longer 2 week plus vacation during summer or winter.

the threat of taking away your 5 days vacation I would definitely reply in a hearty suggestion to copulate with oneself.

Strategically, it really depends on your longer term plans and the relationship you have with your school.

if you are being treated SUPER well in every other aspect, and you have plans on staying beyond a year, then I might consider such a request -(though I would not during summer or winter ESPECIALLY if going to a country with equal or smaller infection rates than the ROK)

I can understand a temporary one time hysteria. and might bend to it if everything else is to die for.

Otherwise? no way!

tell your teacher the same thing I told her which was - I'm taking along some kimchi with me so whatever nasty things I may catch will be immediately eradicated!
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Document the fact you were told (I assume verbally) today - September 21st. Your ticket receipt is dated.

Don't say anything - just go. If for some reason they find out (they would have to ask Immigration) and try to tell you the quarantine period will be deducted from your sick days or holidays, refuse to accept this... and show them the date on the ticket receipt!

If you had to go to the Labor Relations Commission, I'm sure you would win... of course, then, you probably will not be re-signed.
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Manuel_the_Bandito



Joined: 12 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would a Korean teacher be free to leave and return sans quarantine? How would you like it if your coteacher had to miss the first week back to serve a quarantine, leaving you to teach your lessons alone plus cover hers? Perhaps you could think about showing a bit more respect to your coworkers and school.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
Public myth says the public school is informed if we leave the country. I've no idea about the truth behind that. I'm just going to go and not say a word. If they somehow did manage to find out then apologize profusely. Always easier to apologize than seek permission. As with everything else here.

In the worst case, you might end up losing 5 sick days but no money, and have 5 bonus days off (for the quarantine period)


I once had a phone call from immigration because my teacher left the country and I forgot to report it to Immigration (e.g. cancel the visa).

So yes, it is possible.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manuel_the_Bandito wrote:
Would a Korean teacher be free to leave and return sans quarantine? How would you like it if your coteacher had to miss the first week back to serve a quarantine, leaving you to teach your lessons alone plus cover hers? Perhaps you could think about showing a bit more respect to your coworkers and school.


The problem here is that the ticket has already been purchased, if they had a been a bit sooner about the warning this might have been a non-issue, but at this stage, they made the request too late.
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