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Bike racks in the place of subway seats on line 3 ??

 
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KAMAKAZI



Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Location: Jamshil

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:04 am    Post subject: Bike racks in the place of subway seats on line 3 ?? Reply with quote

Anyone notice this? I just seen today that on the last car of a train on line 3, they have the seats removed and just installed railings on both sides for bikes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes. Now there are people lines up on both sides leaning and sitting the the metal bars coz the seats are gone. Waste of space and leaves us standing or fighting the ajumas for a seat Laughing

What the hell Seoul Metro???
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: Bike racks in the place of subway seats on line 3 ?? Reply with quote

KAMAKAZI wrote:
Anyone notice this? I just seen today that on the last car of a train on line 3, they have the seats removed and just installed railings on both sides for bikes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes. Now there are people lines up on both sides leaning and sitting the the metal bars coz the seats are gone. Waste of space and leaves us standing or fighting the ajumas for a seat Laughing

What the hell Seoul Metro???


People usually just bring their fold up bikes. Very rarely have I ever seen a full length one on the subway. Questionable decision. Maybe they temporarily did it for that "don`t bring your car to work" day.
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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's awesome. I sold my car recently and will have to take the stupid subway again at some point. I'm an avid biker; good to hear although after moving from Apkujung I have no need to take that line anymore.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We'll see how it plays but doesn't seem like too bad of an idea. There are people who take their bikes in and take up a bunch of space, but if they live far from a biking area, what choice do they have. Remember, this is only a trial. If it's not worth it, they plan to do away with it.
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KAMAKAZI



Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Location: Jamshil

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fermentation wrote:
We'll see how it plays but doesn't seem like too bad of an idea. There are people who take their bikes in and take up a bunch of space, but if they live far from a biking area, what choice do they have. Remember, this is only a trial. If it's not worth it, they plan to do away with it.


ah its a trial??? on every line??
from what I can see, there are just people sitting on them or leaning against them
hopefully seats will come back. Line 3 isnt so crowded MOST of the time. Theres enough space in the end car for a biker or two even with the seats

yes they were taking up some space before, now they are taking almost have a car with empty spaces

I didnt even know bikes were even allowed on the subway. Other cities in North America too
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KAMAKAZI wrote:


ah its a trial??? on every line??
from what I can see, there are just people sitting on them or leaning against them
hopefully seats will come back. Line 3 isnt so crowded MOST of the time. Theres enough space in the end car for a biker or two even with the seats

I didnt even no bikes were even allowed on the subway. Other cities in North America too


I don't know about every line, but one of the TVs they have on the train said it was just a trial. I think it was line 3 I saw that on.

Yeah I think technically, you aren't supposed to bring bikes(and other big objects) on the subway, but this is Korea. Guess they thought people were breaking the rules anyway and decided to do this. Like in my area, there were so many cars making U-turns where they're not supposed to, so instead of having cops actually do their job and fine them, they put up barriers.
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climber159



Joined: 02 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recall reading in the Korea Times and the Korea Herald that is a trial run of having bikes on the subways. They're testing it out on the lines that run near popular cycling destinations. Personally, I think it's a great idea for the weekends. But, for the cyclist-commuters a folding bike is better to avoid the trains and platforms from becoming even more cluttered.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a lifelong pass to take a bike on a certain commuter railroad in the US. It's not uncommon.
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Bailsibub



Joined: 22 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely a move in the right direction....

I think few would disagree that Seoul has way too many cars on the roads and pollution problems for things to continue the way they have been going.

The way I see it, if the Seoul government creates a better cycling infrastructure, more people will choose cycling over taking a train...so that extra space for bikes on subway cars won't be a problem.

And something like this will make many people who live in the areas surrounding the city choose to get in town by bike. They might ride the train in the faster areas with fewer commuters and stops, then get off the train and ride where things get congested... much better than if they just chose to forget the (faster, cleaner, and healthier) cycling option and ride the train or bus the whole way!

It's a win-win situation for everyone. More people will choose to commute by bike if much of their distance is cut out, leading to fewer train/bus commuters. And train/bus commuters get more empty seats in the really congested parts of the system. Oh yeah, and there'll be fewer cars contributing to Seoul's gridlock.

Just so you all know, bikes are allowed on the subway on certain days at certain times. And this will expand in the next few years as more and more people choose to use bicycles.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happened to myself and a friend when we were leaving Itaewon on line 6.

I'm thrilled about this latest endeavor. More bikes could mean fewer cars on the road. And Korea needs more mass transit, not more roads (the latter of which are being built, anyway Rolling Eyes )
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:
Happened to myself and a friend when we were leaving Itaewon on line 6.

I'm thrilled about this latest endeavor. More bikes could mean fewer cars on the road. And Korea needs more mass transit, not more roads (the latter of which are being built, anyway Rolling Eyes )


The mass transit here is pretty substantial as is. They have 6 more lines than my hometown. Capital projects take a lot of funding and given this economy might be harder to do.
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