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GreenlightmeansGO

Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject: Converting Percent to GPA? |
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I was reading through the job postings and noticed one job that required applicants to supply their GPA in their resume. It also instructed any applicants from countries that did not use the GPA system to convert their final results into a GPA score.
I tried to google it, but I wasn't satisfied with the result. I saw a table of percent to GPA scores, but that suggests that I got a GPA below 2 (which sounds to me like it's lower than 50%). According to that table, 100% = a GPA of 4. However, where I come from (and in what I studied - film, media and English language and literature) it is impossible to get 100%. The top score for the arts is basically around 80%.
So, could anyone help me, or am I doomed to sounding like an idiot with a low 'GPA' result? My final result, by the way, was something like 72%. |
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andrewchon

Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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If the damned Koreans are going to apply the Korean standard of 'only the perfect score is acceptable' then let them be burned for that I'd say.
Meanwhile, only thing I can think of doing is attaching a letter of explanation of how your GPA calculated according their ruler reflects in the real world. |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Aren't American universities the only ones that do GPA?
I went to university in Canada. 80-100% was in the A range at my university and they didn't do A-, A or A+ to differentiate the A (which I think is a shame). In the humanities it is next to impossible to get over 90% in that A range. I think if we worked like the American university system where 90-100% is an A, I would have have gotten a lot more grades in that bracket, as my work was A grade quality.
Unlike the OP, I was able to secure all my credits in the A range with the exception of the mandatory 2nd language course I took: French.
I like what the user above said in explaining the GPA concept as it is applied to your country. |
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KoreanAmbition

Joined: 03 Feb 2008
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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I have some conversion sites in my "bookmark" section but I can save some trouble by just saying,
"Unfortunately, you really are doomed by the GPA system."
A GPA of 2.0 is not a failing GPA... it's not like 50% of a 4.0 GPA. However, 2.0 is not high by any means. On the other hand, I do agree that a 2.0 doesn't sound good, and doesn't accurately reflect the fact that you probably are an intelligent individual who did pretty well. A GPA of 2.0 is considered a low GPA, so you don't want to find an accurate GPA conversion chart. haha
The reality is that it doesn't matter what was possible or impossible. GPA is nothing more than a systematic and quantifiable way to describe your marks.
If you feel that you finished near the top of your class but that was still a low GPA, then you could possibly ask your university to write a letter stating your overall rank in your program. However, that isn't likely at most schools. If you can though, that will certainly nullify the low GPA issue (as long as they trust your university and their letter).
Now, for the GOOD NEWS.
If you are having trouble converting your GPA, then most likely the school you're applying to will also have trouble. I'll assume it's an EWHA application. In my opinion, their request was ridiculous and was either there to scare people, or to make their application process sound really high-level.
Anyways, my suggestion is to pick the GPA conversion chart which is best for your situation.
(Edited to take out my comments that were less than on the up-and-up.)
Last edited by KoreanAmbition on Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:07 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, it's completely different in Canada. I graduated the Canadian equivalent of cum laude ("with Distinction") but according to American percentages, I have a C+ average (maybe a 2.7?).  |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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KoreanAmbition wrote: |
Anyways, my suggestion is to make a respectable GPA that you don't think they'll go crazy about.
If you send them a huge GPA then they'll check into it. If you send them your true GPA (the low one) then you might be shooting yourself in the foot. |
This is bad advice and the course of action suggested would constitute visa fraud. The best advice is to make the conversion following the table provided by the school requesting the GPA. On my university application, there was a chart indicating the percentages to be used for each grade. |
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KoreanAmbition

Joined: 03 Feb 2008
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Central Cali,
Okay, I will tell the OP not to "guess-timate" his GPA.
In addition, I will agree with your post IF you can show me ONE and only ONE standard conversion chart. The ad for EWHA clearly never referred a conversion chart, and it was the job of the applicant to convert everything.
Second... I believe you're totally incorrect.. I don't believe that would be visa fraud in any way at all.
Your GPA has nothing to do with your visa. I never told him to lie that he had a degree that was fake.
Your GPA has nothing to do with immigration... it's simply something for the hiring process of "certain" schools. Immigration doesn't care if you have a 4.0 or 2.8 GPA. They only care that you have a degree. |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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My university:
A+ = 4.3
A = 4.0 - 4.2
A- = 3.7 - 3.9
B+ = 3.3 - 3.8
B = 3.0 - 3.2
B- = 2.7 - 2.9
C+ = 2.3 - 2.8
C = 2.0 - 2.2
D = 1.0
F = 0.0
What percentage gave you which grade was left up to the professor or faculty or something. Some profs gave A+ for 85 - 100%. Some only gave it for 95 and up (or 98?). Didn't need 100% to get A+ (4.3). |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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KoreanAmbition wrote: |
Your GPA has nothing to do with immigration... it's simply something for the hiring process of "certain" schools. Immigration doesn't care if you have a 4.0 or 2.8 GPA. They only care that you have a degree. |
Okay. Drop "visa" from the complaint. It's still fraud. Here's a concept: ask the school what their conversion is!
yengwenlaoshi wrote: |
What percentage gave you which grade was left up to the professor or faculty or something. |
At my university, the percentage to letter grade conversion is standard. |
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KoreanAmbition

Joined: 03 Feb 2008
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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CentralCali,
If you want to get down to that, then every single person's application is "fraudulent" the moment they send out several applications and in every single one of them they say they REALLY want to work for "that' school.
Demanding GPA from schools that don't follow a "bell curve" system is unfair anyways.
Maybe you're right. Maybe the application should be 100% completely without any slanting or skewing. However, I've lived in Korea long enough to know that everything here is slanted and skewed. Possibly telling the OP to fight fire with fire isn't the best of advice...morally...but I guess from my experience I now believe that it's indicative of real life here... in my opinion.
OP, listen to CentralCali; my advice probably wasn't the greatest. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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KoreanAmbition wrote: |
OP, listen to CentralCali; my advice probably wasn't the greatest. |
I would take your advice, at least for working in Korea. |
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kmr538
Joined: 02 May 2009
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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GPA depend upon which University you went to as some schools inflate marks or use number scales or letter scales etc. If you are from Canada or attended a Canadian University the OMSAS is the national chart used by Universities for conversions. If you are from the states or somewhere else...i dunno.
http://www.ouac.on.ca/omsas/pdf/c_omsas_b.pdf |
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