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hyridmonochrome
Joined: 03 Aug 2009
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 Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:51 am Post subject: Letter of Apology to Immigration Office? |
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| Ok, I have one mark on my record, and even though it was completely dismissed, the Korean immigration office won't issue me a visa until I send a letter to them detailing how I won't get involved in "illegal activities" (graffiti, and I wasn't even the one doing it) while in Korea. What is going on here? Is this normal? It's taken WAY longer than usual to get my visa processed because of this, and I just want to know that I'm not the only one who has had to go through this. Advice? |
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yoja
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blonde researcher
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Location: Globalizing in Korea for the time being
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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There has been a zero policy for some months now of there having to be nothing showing on your CRC for immigration.
EPIK and SMOE now have a total zero policy as well.
Anything showing on a CRC, even minor,even if it was dismissed means a fail to get the visa issued.
If your employer/immigration is giving you the chance to make a formal apology and promise not to do anything stupid in Korea, you should jump at the chance and write the letter.
Turn this chance down and next job you try to get and submit your CRC with something on it you probably won't get a second chance : you will be failed
Don't worry about how crazy this may feel or how offended you may be.
Do you want a visa and the job? If so get writing! |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Korea: Basing visas on a foreign legal system they don't understand. |
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cherrycoke
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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lol...so sad
So let's say some girls claims I raped her and she takes me to court and the case gets thrown out I will still have that mark on me. Then if I went to Korea they will treat me as if I actually committed the crime? What a joke. |
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Scouse Mouse
Joined: 07 Jan 2007
Location: Cloud #9
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| cherrycoke wrote: |
lol...so sad
So let's say some girls claims I raped her and she takes me to court and the case gets thrown out I will still have that mark on me. Then if I went to Korea they will treat me as if I actually committed the crime? What a joke. |
So let's say I didn't commit any crime, but my home country keeps the crime I didn't commit on a record of criminal activities. This makes Korea the joke? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| cherrycoke wrote: |
lol...so sad
So let's say some girls claims I raped her and she takes me to court and the case gets thrown out I will still have that mark on me. Then if I went to Korea they will treat me as if I actually committed the crime? What a joke. |
So Korea is supposed to know that you didn't commit the crime?
All they would know is that the case got thrown out. They don't know whether you are guilty or not, so why are they supposed to take the chance? |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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How about I committed plenty of crimes and never got caught but people who didn't do anything were accused and have marks on their records?
How is it fair that I'm here and they aren't? |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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...and I liked that! |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| djsmnc wrote: |
How about I committed plenty of crimes and never got caught but people who didn't do anything were accused and have marks on their records?
How is it fair that I'm here and they aren't? |
How is it fair that many dumb CEOS who ran their companies into the ground get a golden parachute while many of us may never be able to afford retirement?
How is it fair that the developed countries consume a disproportionate amount of the world's resources, while millions of people in less-developed countries go to bed hungry, have no safe drinking water...?
Getting the point yet?
Welcome to life. It was never advertised as being fair. And Korea is not the only option for people. |
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| cherrycoke wrote: |
lol...so sad
So let's say some girls claims I raped her and she takes me to court and the case gets thrown out I will still have that mark on me. Then if I went to Korea they will treat me as if I actually committed the crime? What a joke. |
It sounds more like the op was with someone who was committing a crime but wasn't the actual one that was doing the crime. i.e. he was with his mate who was graffiting. Correct me if I am wrong but it is not a case of false accusation |
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cherrycoke
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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perhaps I didn't make my point clear.
Let's say you are accused of something. Say graffiti. You go to court and you are found not guilty. Not guilty. But you will still have a mark on your record stating you went to court for it. Even though you were found not guilty you will go to Korea and they will assume guilt and ask you to apologise for it. If this is what happened then I will call it a joke. |
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cherrycoke
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| cherrycoke wrote: |
lol...so sad
So let's say some girls claims I raped her and she takes me to court and the case gets thrown out I will still have that mark on me. Then if I went to Korea they will treat me as if I actually committed the crime? What a joke. |
So Korea is supposed to know that you didn't commit the crime?
All they would know is that the case got thrown out. They don't know whether you are guilty or not |
Yes they do. They can see clearly that the record states you are not guilty. Therefore they cannot ask you to apologize or treat you like a criminal for it.
Do you ever think before you post?
I doubt it. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| cherrycoke wrote: |
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| cherrycoke wrote: |
lol...so sad
So let's say some girls claims I raped her and she takes me to court and the case gets thrown out I will still have that mark on me. Then if I went to Korea they will treat me as if I actually committed the crime? What a joke. |
So Korea is supposed to know that you didn't commit the crime?
All they would know is that the case got thrown out. They don't know whether you are guilty or not |
Yes they do. They can see clearly that the record states you are not guilty. Therefore they cannot ask you to apologize or treat you like a criminal for it.
Do you ever think before you post?
I doubt it. |
Obviously you don't. The record is not going to say you are not guilty...it is going to say you were FOUND not guilty. Doesn't mean that you aren't guilty, just means that they can't prove it.
Thinking before you post is indeed a valuable skill. I suggest employing it the next time you post. |
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cherrycoke
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Obviously you don't. The record is not going to say you are not guilty...it is going to say you were FOUND not guilty. Doesn't mean that you aren't guilty, just means that they can't prove it.
Thinking before you post is indeed a valuable skill. I suggest employing it the next time you post. |
If there is no incriminating evidence against you, the default view should not be you are a criminal neither should be treated as such. That's all I'm going to say before I waste any more time arguing with a person like you that is so completely devoid of simple logic. If anyone else wants to point out how wrong this person is, be my guest. |
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