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A Great Job for US Citizens with Master's in TEFL
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fustiancorduroy



Joined: 12 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:48 am    Post subject: A Great Job for US Citizens with Master's in TEFL Reply with quote

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spanglish



Joined: 03 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this is in the wrong forum, but...

Is this the best English teaching job in the world?? I wonder what the quals and experience will be of the people who actually get this job.
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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The really nice government jobs of this nature are typically filled before the job vacancy is posted. By law, a U.S. government entity must post job openings before offering the position to a pre-existing candidate. It's infuriating because many people have no idea whether it is worthwhile to complete a lengthy government application, or if they are just being jerked-around by the system.

I can't say for sure, but I am not optimistic about applying to this one. I think Uncle Sam is just pulling your chain.
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pre-existing candidates are usually current federal employees moving up the ladder. Veterans leaving the military get preference too.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly, and not only that, but having been offered a similar position after applying before, it may take up to 2 years before you actually start the position. Seriously.
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spanglish



Joined: 03 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the key is to become one of the insiders...

I think the worst part would be the onerous application process. Regardless though, this pays way way more (and looks pretty cool) than any other job I've seen discussed in any forum.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spanglish wrote:
So the key is to become one of the insiders...

I think the worst part would be the onerous application process. Regardless though, this pays way way more (and looks pretty cool) than any other job I've seen discussed in any forum.


Well, sure...It's a ticket to great benefits and a good reputation. Chances for advancement. The small house in the country with a white picket fence, a blonde wife and two kids.
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spanglish



Joined: 03 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds okay...but I wouldn't mind a dark haired wife.
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cherrycoke



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's some ridiculous money. I hope someone from this forum gets it.
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sjk1128



Joined: 04 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does look like a good job, but not all that great. <2 up to almost 4 weeks vacation (after 15 years), health care, child care assistance (if you plan to have children -I don't), stationed where the government decides for 2 to 4 years at a time, paid by the US government.

This means the first year might look like this

65k --> 44k after deductions
13 days vacation
Stationed in Rabat for 4 years, traveling around (over and over) to 5 or more northern African Countries.

The 15th year might look like this

85k -->56k after deductions
26 days vacation
Stationed in Mexico City (or whatever region you prefer), traveling around (over and over) to 5 or more Central and South American countries.

The job might provide for some interesting travel and experiences, but I'm not really interested in living in Morocco for 4 or 5 years and visiting Gadhafi's Libya or Darfur as part of my regular duties.... The pay is only 10-20% better that I'm doing now (considering I pay almost no taxes on my income earned abroad), and the vacation kind of sucks after what I'm used to now. Retirement would be great!
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Sadebugo1



Joined: 11 May 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had thought about applying for this job. I already work for DOD as an ESL instructor in San Antonio, Texas. The only thing stopping me is what one of the posters already mentioned. I would hate to be stationed in a difficult area for multiple years. In my current job, I can apply for assignments overseas that last three-six months and then return to the US AND my house. Right now, I'm in the Republic of Georgia for a period of three months with a return date of late November. I think my deal is the better one.

Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/
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spanglish



Joined: 03 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sadebugo1: sounds like a great job with the best of both world - live in the US and get to travel with a good paycheck.

What career/educational steps would you advise to get that kind of job?
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is a foreign service English language officer?
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spanglish



Joined: 03 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diplomats are foreign service officers. So I'm guessing a foreign service English language officer is just a sexed up way of saying 'Senior English teacher.'

I think the idea is the teachers would play a role in the foreign policy process.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spanglish wrote:
Sounds okay...but I wouldn't mind a dark haired wife.


Your point is?
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