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PeterDragon
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:27 pm Post subject: vzx |
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oldtactics

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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Location: Gyeonggi-do
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Are you looking for only relevant teaching based M.A.s or English M.A.s (lit. and lang.) more broadly? |
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the_beaver

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PeterDragon
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Location: Gyeonggi-do
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Ok, well, the University of Nottingham and the University of Birmingham both offer distance learning English degrees at M.A. level from the UK (I think Cardiff and Reading possibly do as well). The charge for full-time campus based attendence at a UK university is normally �10000 for non-EU students. I'm not sure what they charge for distance learning (Nottingham is between 2 and 4 years part time so you can spread the cost). Out of the two (though both are well respected institutions), I'd highly recommend Nottingham - I went to their postgraduate open day for doing a M.A. a couple of years ago (I ended up going to a different uni) and was most impressed. Nottingham is currently ranked as the 8th best UK university by the Sunday Times (it's also well placed in world rankings). All and all a very good choice for M.A. level study. Also, Nottingham is ranked above the South African university you were after information on (in the Shanghai Jiao Tong University rankings) |
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Craven Moorehead

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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:04 am Post subject: |
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First of all, being immersed in a foreign culture and teaching English while working on an online MA is a great way to further your career. Personally, I tend to chuckle good-naturedly when I hear about attaining English MAs online, (having earned mine the old fashioned way, I bought it in the Philippines), BUT a credential is a credential. Looks great on your resume backed up with international teaching experience. I will admit, however, that if you have to pay for an English MA, it probably isn't worth your time, unless you back it up with a teaching credential like a CELTA, DELTA, or there is an excellent distance TESOL diploma offered at Vancouver Community College.
The only MA that would definitely be worth your time AND money is one in Applied Linguistics. I believe there is an excellent online program offered at the University of Wellington with a component that requires you to be on campus for a length of time.
It's an excellent way to get a leg up on the competition in the ESL ratrace, and an outstanding gateway to an international career. Sorry if this sounds like a travelogue, but I'm a little high. |
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mc_jc

Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I
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The sad part is that there aren't many reputable online programs in the states in general, let alone in TESOL or Applied Linguistics.
There are many schools that offer online graduate studies, but as mentioned before, barely anything that would catch an employer's eye, especially with the amount of degree scams being ran these days.
For instance, University of Phoenix is now known as an "accredited" diploma mill because they pass just about anyone in their degree programs all the way up to doctoral work.
As soon as a perspective worker explains that they got their degree via DL, it almost automatically raises some red flags.
There are some good programs being offered in the community, it would be more beneficial taking them than investing (heavily) in a potential disaster. |
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michi gnome

Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Location: Dokdo
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Look no further than Virginia. Great University, accredited, and the 10 or so courses of the MSEd TESOL will run you about $11,000. Don't listen to the online degree bashers. For folks who want to work on a degree without having to quit a job & take out massive student loans, an online degree (from a good school, not a business) makes perfect sense and will become more prevalent in the future. You will probably learn more as well since you must be more self-motivated for this kind of study.
http://www.su.edu/education/A11ABEE8BC9D4FD2B57D0D52D1E8415D.asp |
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ddeubel

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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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I was thinking this was for an MA in English....however I now see the OP wants info. on M.A.'s in TESL / TESOL / TEFL .
Here's a good list I put together to help teachers. Only substantial and longer running programs listed. Let me know what others should be on the list, in your opinion. Appreciated.
http://eflclassroom.com/onlinemasters.html
DD
http://teachingrecipes.com |
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PeterDragon
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PeterDragon
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bassexpander
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Craven Moorehead wrote: |
First of all, being immersed in a foreign culture and teaching English while working on an online MA is a great way to further your career. Personally, I tend to chuckle good-naturedly when I hear about attaining English MAs online, (having earned mine the old fashioned way, I bought it in the Philippines), BUT a credential is a credential. Looks great on your resume backed up with international teaching experience. I will admit, however, that if you have to pay for an English MA, it probably isn't worth your time, unless you back it up with a teaching credential like a CELTA, DELTA, or there is an excellent distance TESOL diploma offered at Vancouver Community College.
The only MA that would definitely be worth your time AND money is one in Applied Linguistics. I believe there is an excellent online program offered at the University of Wellington with a component that requires you to be on campus for a length of time.
It's an excellent way to get a leg up on the competition in the ESL ratrace, and an outstanding gateway to an international career. Sorry if this sounds like a travelogue, but I'm a little high. |
A few things:
1. Beware of easy MA's from "down south" that are beginning to be recognized as diploma mills. I'm not saying one way or another about the school you mentioned -- just warning people to ask around.
2. Word of caution to all newbies: There is BIG, BIG MONEY in selling TEFL programs, and in truth, they aren't required in Korea. That alone should raise some red flags. If you want to teach in countries within the EU (must also be FROM the EU), or want to work as a "servant" in a compound in Saudi Arabia, then drop your 2+ million won for a CELTA/DELTA and go for it. There is no need to fork out 2 million won for one to get a job in Korea (unless you want to work for CELTA directly). If you really want a CELTA/DELTA, or enjoy studying that sort of thing, then go for it -- it can only help. You can even take it here in Korea. They are of far less value to Americans, however.
3. Stating that an MA in anything but AL is worthwhile only discredits the rest of your post.
Anyone who knows anything about how the hiring is done at universities in Korea knows that the MA is what schools are looking for. Whether or not you have a CELTA is NOT going to get you the job nod over someone with an MA who doesn't. It won't even help you get a job over a BA who doesn't have one, if they like the other guy better. Likewise, you having one in addition to an MA won't mean a squat hill of beans if you can't interview as well as the guy who doesn't have one. What will get you hired is what they think of you personally, because MA's are what get people in the door. At the university level, a CELTA is generally irrelevant. Can you learn from it? You bet... but it's just not a "must have" in Korea by any stretch of the imagination.
Personally, I'd love it if people went for the CELTA instead of an MA. Why? Because it means I will face a lot less competition for university jobs. |
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PeterDragon
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