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| Who are the American Beatles? |
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Old Gil
Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!
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 Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: The American Beatles? |
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http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-american-beatles,33870/
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| Who then would you say represents us as �our Beatles,� or the Great American Rock Band? |
The Onion AV Club recently had a poll as to who the American Beatles would be, with a few of their staff member debating who that would be. My vote is for the Grateful Dead, but I think that the Beach Boys and Guided By Voices are also in the running. What do YOU think?
If you have ideas for other options please let me know, I'm a little overhung today.
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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It's a ridiculous equation to make......like, who's the British Bob Dylan?
Anyway, it's The Beach Boys. |
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Old Gil
Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
| It's a ridiculous equation to make |
why?
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| ......like, who's the British Bob Dylan? |
Donovan? |
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chris_J2
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: US Beatles |
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Beach Boys or CCR.
Why not set up a poll? |
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Old Gil
Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: US Beatles |
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| chris_J2 wrote: |
Beach Boys or CCR.
Why not set up a poll? |
Nice idea will do. |
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Lunar Groove Gardener
Joined: 05 Jan 2005
Location: 1987 Subaru
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:39 am Post subject: |
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I just heard 14 cellos, a double bass, percussionist and piano perform "Yesterday" and "ObladiOblada"...
To think that decades after your own death people around the world would know your songs by heart, and love them, is quite an awe inspiring reality.
I think that is a worthy criterion by which one might compare the lasting impact of one artist/groups' musical works to that of the Beatles.
With that in mind, Bob Dylan perhaps is the nearest equivalent to the American Beatles.
Donovan is great, but John Lenin is much more the British Bob Dylan. |
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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| Sadly, it is probably Michael Jackson. He is the King of Pop. He is the only American to really match the raw popularity and the talent of the Beatles. |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| Unposter wrote: |
| Sadly, it is probably Michael Jackson. He is the King of Pop. He is the only American to really match the raw popularity and the talent of the Beatles. |
Has to be a band, though. Britain doesn't have many big solo artists, the way the US does.
I'm going to go for a left field selection and say Animal Collective for American Beatles. |
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5600
Joined: 07 Apr 2008
Location: At an undisclosed FEMA camp.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| I'd write in the Ramones. But I have had a few beers with Uncle Bob. Best thing to come out of Dayton, Ohio in my book. |
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benji
Joined: 21 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| The Monkees were created to counter The Beatles. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Out of the bands listed, the Beach Boys were probably the most musically accomplished, but they don't really match up well at all with the Beatles (who had three great songwriters ...)
Among other American groups with a substantial body of work, I would include Jefferson Airplane, Santana, Simon and Garfunkel, the Mamas and Pappas, Bruce Springsteen (and the E Street Band), Boston, Journey, Chicago, Bon Jovi, Van Halen, America, and Crosby, Stills, Nash (and Young)
I thing the Lovin' Spoonful should also get honorable mention for their distinctive style and catchy tunes - but they were not nearly as great as the Beatles. |
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chris_J2
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:03 am Post subject: US Beatles |
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| I would include Jefferson Airplane, Santana, Simon and Garfunkel, the Mamas and Pappas, Bruce Springsteen (and the E Street Band), Boston, Journey, Chicago, Bon Jovi, Van Halen, America, and Crosby, Stills, Nash (and Young) |
Jefferson Airplane only had 2 big international hits. White Rabbit & Somebody to love you.
Santana was not really mainstream pop. More salsa & jazz fusion. No denying he's a great guitarist though.
Bruce Springsteen (and the E Street Band), Boston, Journey, Bon Jovi, Van Halen were all predominantly late 70's / 80's bands.
Chicago were an early 70's band, rather than 60's. "Second only to the Beach Boys in terms of singles and albums, Chicago is one of the longest running and most successful U.S. pop/rock and roll groups" (Wiki)
America's peak years were 1972-82. Their producer was George Martin.
Although D�j� Vu is a fine album, it's not in the same league as 'Sergeant Peppers' or 'Pet Sounds', imho. CSN(Y) were also a predominantly early 70's band, as was CCR.
The Beatles actually sat down & listened to 'Pet Sounds' & decided they had to do something at least as good. The Beach Boys were inspired by the Beatles previous album (Rubber Soul) to produce Pet Sounds.
"The real catalyst for Pet Sounds was the U.S. version of The Beatles' new LP Rubber Soul, which was released in December 1965. Wilson later recalled his first impressions of the groundbreaking album:
�I really wasn't quite ready for the unity. It felt like it all belonged together. Rubber Soul was a collection of songs ... that somehow went together like no album ever made before, and I was very impressed. I said, "That's it. I really am challenged to do a great album."
The Beatles, for example, have said that Pet Sounds was a major influence on their album Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, and Paul McCartney has repeatedly named it as one of his favorite albums (with "God Only Knows" as his favorite song) � completing a circle begun by The Beatles' influence on Wilson. McCartney stated that:
� It was Pet Sounds that blew me out of the water. I love the album so much. I've just bought my kids each a copy of it for their education in life ... I figure no one is educated musically 'til they've heard that album ... I love the orchestra, the arrangements ... it may be going overboard to say it's the classic of the century ... but to me, it certainly is a total, classic record that is unbeatable in many ways ... I've often played Pet Sounds and cried. I played it to John [Lennon] so much that it would be difficult for him to escape the influence ... it was the record of the time. The thing that really made me sit up and take notice was the bass lines ... and also, putting melodies in the bass line. That I think was probably the big influence that set me thinking when we recorded Pepper, it set me off on a period I had then for a couple of years of nearly always writing quite melodic bass lines. "God Only Knows" is a big favourite of mine ... very emotional, always a bit of a choker for me, that one. On "You Still Believe in Me", I love that melody - that kills me ... that's my favourite, I think ... it's so beautiful right at the end ... comes surging back in these multi-coloured harmonies ... sends shivers up my spine."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Sounds
S&G are an entirely different genre to the Beatles & Beach Boys, although their exceptions, 'Cecilia' & 'Mrs Robinson' are as good as any of the pop songs written by the Beatles or Beach Boys, both of whom were far more prolific, & kept churning out far more hit records, than S&G. But I actually went and saw S&G, when they came to Australia, & wasn't disappointed. Paul Simon went on to produce some really outstanding solo work in the 80's, too. (eg, 'Graceland').
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Sleepy in Seoul
Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| Lunar Groove Gardener wrote: |
| Donovan is great, but John Lenin is much more the British Bob Dylan. |
Not quite so influential in the world as his grandad though. |
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Old Gil
Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Sleepy in Seoul wrote: |
| Lunar Groove Gardener wrote: |
| Donovan is great, but John Lenin is much more the British Bob Dylan. |
Not quite so influential in the world as his grandad though. |
Dammit Donny, VI LENIN. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov! |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| The answer of course is 'nobody'. The closest thing I can think of would be someone like The Monkees or Buffalo Springfield. Basically, there was no equivalent though. |
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