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proustme
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 Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past |
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past
A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family has Jewish roots.
A close-up of the document reveals he was previously known as Sabourjian � a Jewish name meaning cloth weaver.
The short note scrawled on the card suggests his family changed its name to Ahmadinejad when they converted to embrace Islam after his birth.
The Sabourjians traditionally hail from Aradan, Mr Ahmadinejad's birthplace, and the name derives from "weaver of the Sabour", the name for the Jewish Tallit shawl in Persia. The name is even on the list of reserved names for Iranian Jews compiled by Iran's Ministry of the Interior.
Experts last night suggested Mr Ahmadinejad's track record for hate-filled attacks on Jews could be an overcompensation to hide his past.
Ali Nourizadeh, of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies, said: "This aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's background explains a lot about him.
"Every family that converts into a different religion takes a new identity by condemning their old faith.
"By making anti-Israeli statements he is trying to shed any suspicions about his Jewish connections. He feels vulnerable in a radical Shia society."
A London-based expert on Iranian Jewry said that "jian" ending to the name specifically showed the family had been practising Jews.
More at
1. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/6256173/Mahmoud-Ahmadinejad-revealed-to-have-Jewish-past.html
2. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254393087547&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull |
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Julius
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:51 am Post subject: |
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-just like Hitler and his henchmen...
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"Contrary to conventional views, Rigg reveals that a startlingly large number of German military men were classified by the Nazis as Jews or "partial-Jews" (Mischlinge), in the wake of racial laws first enacted in the mid-1930s. Rigg demonstrates that the actual number was much higher than previously thought--perhaps as many as 150,000 men, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, even generals and admirals."
The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must come as a profound shock." |
http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html |
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Trevor
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| Help me out here. what are the conclusions we are supposed to be drawing from this bombshell. |
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endo
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Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:47 am Post subject: |
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See, the Jews are behind everything. Even anti-semitism  |
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djsmnc
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| Trevor wrote: |
| Help me out here. what are the conclusions we are supposed to be drawing from this bombshell. |
I should think we would decide that A) he is a self-loathing man who is B) covering up his past with his harsh anti-semitic rhetoric and C) should be beaten and crucified with a sign that says "King of the Jews" above his head |
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proustme
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| On my part, having done little investigation myself and relying on otherwise reputable new sources, I do have to say that I'm not absolutely sure of this story's veracity. Translations can be wrong, and family histories in this part of the world intermingle (or can be thought to be so) and so can be misinterpreted. |
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Big_Bird
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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It seems it is not so:
Ahmadinejad has no Jewish roots
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Moreover, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's mother is a Seyyede. This is a title given to women whose family are believed to be direct bloodline descendants of Prophet Muhammad. Male members are given the title of Seyyed, and include prominent figures such as Iran's supreme leader Ali Khamenei. In Judaism, this is equivalent to the Cohens, who are direct descendants of Aaron, the brother of Moses. One has to be born into a Seyyed family: the title is never given to Muslims by birth, let alone converts. This makes it impossible for Ahmadinejad's mother to have been a Jew. In fact, she was so proud of her lineage that everyone in her native village of Aradan referred to her by her Islamic title, Seyyede.
The reason that Ahmadinejad's father changed his surname has more to do with the class struggle in Iran. When it became mandatory to adopt surnames, many people from rural areas chose names that represented their professions or that of their ancestors. This made them easily identifiable as townfolk. In many cases they changed their surnames upon moving to Tehran, in order to avoid snobbery and discrimination from residents of the capital.
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