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The Cosmic Hum

Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Sonic Space
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: The Single Male/Female F2/F5 Visa - Fact or Fiction? |
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Many threads have discussed, and continue to discuss visa concerns.
However, this thread will be entirely dedicated to finding individuals who have an F2, or more importantly the elusive F5 visa, and achieved this without marriage or family ties in Korea.
A few posters have stated they know of people who have done this...particularly the F2 visa.
Yet, in all the hundreds, if not thousands of threads and posts on visas, not one single person has come forward and claimed this personally.
If you are one such person, your information would be more than greatly appreciated.
If you have an F2 or F5 visa, and have this based on merit, rather than family, would you please come forward and share your knowledge on how this came to being.
If you know anyone who has this visa, could you please share their stories, or better yet, get them to post the details here.
Again, any relevant information regarding the acquisition of the F5 visa while remaining single would be of the greatest value to the expat community here in Korea. |
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hwarangi
Joined: 17 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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To get an F-5 with no family ties you need to have worked for the same company for 5 consecutive years and be earning 3x the average Korean salary (calculated by per capita GDP of the previous year). |
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winterwawa
Joined: 06 May 2007
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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hwarangi wrote: |
To get an F-5 with no family ties you need to have worked for the same company for 5 consecutive years and be earning 3x the average Korean salary (calculated by per capita GDP of the previous year). |
This is not what the OP asked for. As the OP stated, there have are many threads on this board concerning the F2 and F5 VISA. Almost all have the rules spelled out, and the one you have posted has been posted many times as well.
What the OP is asking, and what I also what to know is-- Are there any expats living in Korea who have acquired an F2 or F5 VISA without being married? Please no friend of a friend stories.
This is of particular interest to me since I have recently divorced my k-wife and am trying to get an F5 based on immigrations rules that state if a foreigner and Korean divorce, the foreigner can have an F5 if he/she proves that the Korean is to blame for the divorce.
In my case, the courts ruled against my wife and claimed her to be at fault for our divorce,;yet, the immigration department of Daejeon is dragging their feet and won't even begin the investigation process until October 24. I submitted all the documents on September the 25.
So, once again, if there is anyone male or female, who are either single, or divorced from a Korean, and who have received their F5 VISA, we would love to hear from you. |
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The Cosmic Hum

Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Sonic Space
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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hwarangi wrote: |
To get an F-5 with no family ties you need to have worked for the same company for 5 consecutive years and be earning 3x the average Korean salary (calculated by per capita GDP of the previous year). |
I appreciate the information hwarangi...the hurdles for achieving the F5 have been set extremely high...which is why it makes it so compelling to find out if anyone has achieved the visa this way.
Winter...your situation is certainly going to break new ground in this area.
Will be nice to hear of a positive result for you.
Hope to receive some good feedback in this thread. |
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hwarangi
Joined: 17 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: The Single Male/Female F2/F5 Visa - Fact or Fiction? |
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The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
Again, any relevant information regarding the acquisition of the F5 visa while remaining single would be of the greatest value to the expat community here in Korea. |
Isnt it exactly what s/he asked for? |
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bluelake

Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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I mentioned in different threads about my colleague who is unmarried and has an F-2; as the OP has talked with me in at least one of those threads, I am sure my friend is one of the people he is referring to. I have seen my friend's ARC, so I can, unequivocally, state the story is true, although I would have believed him even without seeing it.
I don't know whether or not he will come here to tell his story, but I will ask him in any case. |
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winterwawa
Joined: 06 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:07 am Post subject: |
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bluelake wrote: |
I mentioned in different threads about my colleague who is unmarried and has an F-2; as the OP has talked with me in at least one of those threads, I am sure my friend is one of the people he is referring to. I have seen my friend's ARC, so I can, unequivocally, state the story is true, although I would have believed him even without seeing it.
I don't know whether or not he will come here to tell his story, but I will ask him in any case. |
I have read your posts on other threads, and I am not calling you a lier, but I find your story very difficult to believe. I hope your friend is a member of this site and willing to post details. If he has an F2 and has never been married, it is a first.
Some questions:
1. At what immigration office did he receive his F2?
2. How long had he been in Korea?
3. What king of job does he have? I am thinking he is not an English teacher, but I could be wrong.
4. It is clearly stated on every immigration and MOJ website, and in all the immigration offices that I have visited that the F2 is a marriage VISA, are you sure he is not married to a Korean?
The story just sounds unbelievable given all that I know and have heard about Korea. |
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bluelake

Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:50 am Post subject: |
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winterwawa wrote: |
bluelake wrote: |
I mentioned in different threads about my colleague who is unmarried and has an F-2; as the OP has talked with me in at least one of those threads, I am sure my friend is one of the people he is referring to. I have seen my friend's ARC, so I can, unequivocally, state the story is true, although I would have believed him even without seeing it.
I don't know whether or not he will come here to tell his story, but I will ask him in any case. |
I have read your posts on other threads, and I am not calling you a lier, but I find your story very difficult to believe. I hope your friend is a member of this site and willing to post details. If he has an F2 and has never been married, it is a first.
Some questions:
1. At what immigration office did he receive his F2?
2. How long had he been in Korea?
3. What king of job does he have? I am thinking he is not an English teacher, but I could be wrong.
4. It is clearly stated on every immigration and MOJ website, and in all the immigration offices that I have visited that the F2 is a marriage VISA, are you sure he is not married to a Korean?
The story just sounds unbelievable given all that I know and have heard about Korea. |
You may find it hard to believe, but it is absolutely true. He, if he decides to post here, will have to give you more specific details. However, this is as much as I can say:
1. He lived in the Busan area; which exact office he used, I do not know.
2. He has been in Korea for several years (the exact number I don't remember).
3. He teaches English in a university.
4. He is absolutely single and has never been married.
O.K.? |
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Scouse Mouse
Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Location: Cloud #9
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:05 am Post subject: |
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One AFEK member has one. He seems more willing to discuss it there. If I were him, there is no way I would be posting my details here for all to see
Now... the exact visa you are asking about is the F-2-5.
There are just 38 of them in Korea. That is 0.0038% of all foreigners (and I don't mean English teachers, I mean foreigners). Good luck finding one  |
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winterwawa
Joined: 06 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:09 am Post subject: |
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I have never heard of an F2-5. F2-1, F5, but never F2-5. At any rate I would really like to talk to these people if possible. If Scouse Mouse and Bluelake could PM me with information on how to contact these two people, I would greatly appreciate it. I am also curious about the number of 38 people who have these VISA. From where did you get the number 38. Are there public statistics somewhere?
One last request, can someone please post a link to the AFEK homepage? |
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Scouse Mouse
Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Location: Cloud #9
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:21 am Post subject: |
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www.afek.info
The stats are from an excel sheet of Immi stats that I downloaded from somewhere or other. I can't remember where, but the F-2-5 info is as follows:
기타장기 (F-2-5)
Total: 38
Male: 19
Female: 19
Asian: (4 male, 8 female)
- Ethnic Korean Chinese (1 male, 1 female)
- Chinese (2 female)
- Filipino (1 male)
- Japanese (1 male, 2 female)
- Taiwanese (3 female)
- Indian (1 male)
North American (5 male, 2 female)
- American (5 male)
- Canadian (2 female)
South American (2 male)
- Mexican (2 male)
European (8 male, 9 female)
- British (1 male)
- French (1 male, 2 female)
- German (2 female)
- Ethnic Korean Russians (1 female)
- Italian (2 male)
- Swiss (2 female)
- Spanish (1 male, 1 female)
- Belgian (1 male, 1 female)
- Belarusian (2 male)
If you want the full spreadsheet (all in Korean) PM me your email address. I don't have a source on it though as I can't remember where it came from.
As you can see... these visas are rare. Of the 'Big 7', there are just 8 visas, and I bet most of them are not given to English Teachers. |
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The Cosmic Hum

Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Sonic Space
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:30 am Post subject: |
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Scouse Mouse wrote: |
One AFEK member has one. He seems more willing to discuss it there. If I were him, there is no way I would be posting my details here for all to see
Now... the exact visa you are asking about is the F-2-5.
There are just 38 of them in Korea. That is 0.0038% of all foreigners (and I don't mean English teachers, I mean foreigners). Good luck finding one  |
Scouse Mouse...thanks for the information.
You are right about the F-2-5...which is for different from the F2-1 for those married to Koreans.
I believe this is the same visa that BlueLake is referring to as well.
While the number of people who have attained this visa is very low...38...it is at least a start.
BlueLake...I have no doubts with regards to your testament...in fact I appreciate your posting that information here and on the other threads.
It would be great to get more detailed information, but as Scouse Mouse very astutely points out...those with that visa may be more than a little reluctant to post such information here.
Nevertheless, if they would be willing to do so, we would all stand to benefit from such information.
It still seems that the F5 remains as elusive as ever.
Scouse Mouse, is there anyone in AFEK who has acquired the F5 yet...or in progress to acquire it?(single that is)
I am glad to hear the networking is alive and well with AFEK...I wish you all the best of luck...we all had quite a time with that ATEK thread.
I hope this thread can be as much service to the expat community as that thread was to uniting the F series visas.
Happy Chusuck to all. |
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The Cosmic Hum

Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Sonic Space
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Scouse Mouse wrote: |
www.afek.info
The stats are from an excel sheet of Immi stats that I downloaded from somewhere or other. I can't remember where, but the F-2-5 info is as follows:
기타장기 (F-2-5)
Total: 38
Male: 19
Female: 19
Asian: (4 male, 8 female)
- Ethnic Korean Chinese (1 male, 1 female)
- Chinese (2 female)
- Filipino (1 male)
- Japanese (1 male, 2 female)
- Taiwanese (3 female)
- Indian (1 male)
North American (5 male, 2 female)
- American (5 male)
- Canadian (2 female)
South American (2 male)
- Mexican (2 male)
European (8 male, 9 female)
- British (1 male)
- French (1 male, 2 female)
- German (2 female)
- Ethnic Korean Russians (1 female)
- Italian (2 male)
- Swiss (2 female)
- Spanish (1 male, 1 female)
- Belgian (1 male, 1 female)
- Belarusian (2 male)
If you want the full spreadsheet (all in Korean) PM me your email address. I don't have a source on it though as I can't remember where it came from.
As you can see... these visas are rare. Of the 'Big 7', there are just 8 visas, and I bet most of them are not given to English Teachers. |
Scouse Mouse,
Once again, well done.
You are a wealth of information...glad you are willing to share.
Do you have any such information regarding the F5 for single people in Korea?(perhaps I ask too much...)
Hats off to you...Happy Chusuck.  |
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Scouse Mouse
Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Location: Cloud #9
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:38 am Post subject: |
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I am not sure if the F-2-5 can be upgraded to F5. The only way I know of to get the F5 is by marriage or by investing.
There is a lot of dud info out there about language requirements, residency requirements, financial requirements, etc, so I can understand the reluctance of people to believe all that they have heard, but so far, all evidence does point to the F5 only being available to those who invest or marry.
One thing I wonder about... one of the requirements for the F-2-5 seems to be that a person needs to be at a single employer whilst in Korea. So... does this mean that they would not get a renewal if they change jobs?
If not, the F-2-5 may not allow the freedoms some hope. Sure, you can get a second job, but changing your main job may see you downgraded. |
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winterwawa
Joined: 06 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Scouse Mouse wrote: |
www.afek.info
The stats are from an excel sheet of Immi stats that I downloaded from somewhere or other. I can't remember where, but the F-2-5 info is as follows:
기타장기 (F-2-5)
Total: 38
Male: 19
Female: 19
Asian: (4 male, 8 female)
- Ethnic Korean Chinese (1 male, 1 female)
- Chinese (2 female)
- Filipino (1 male)
- Japanese (1 male, 2 female)
- Taiwanese (3 female)
- Indian (1 male)
North American (5 male, 2 female)
- American (5 male)
- Canadian (2 female)
South American (2 male)
- Mexican (2 male)
European (8 male, 9 female)
- British (1 male)
- French (1 male, 2 female)
- German (2 female)
- Ethnic Korean Russians (1 female)
- Italian (2 male)
- Swiss (2 female)
- Spanish (1 male, 1 female)
- Belgian (1 male, 1 female)
- Belarusian (2 male)
If you want the full spreadsheet (all in Korean) PM me your email address. I don't have a source on it though as I can't remember where it came from.
As you can see... these visas are rare. Of the 'Big 7', there are just 8 visas, and I bet most of them are not given to English Teachers. |
Bluelake, thank you for your post. I apologies for my skepticism, but there is just so much false and unverifiable information out there that it is hard to believe what you hear sometimes.
Scouse Mouse, that you as well for the information. It is helpful, but it is not exactly what I am looking for. According to the Immigration's Handbook for Migrant Workers, I am legal entitled to and F5, Permanent Resident VISA as a result of my wife's actions cause our divorce.
As I posted earlier, I have never heard of an F2-5. Is it similar in scope as far as no renewals, and other benefits that the F5 offers. There is absolutely no mention of an F2-5 in any material I have read.
I have also heard that one can get an F5 by investing, but the immigration department in Daejeon said that is false. There is an investment VISA call the D-8 that you can get through the FDI (Foreign Direct Investment) scheme, but the money has to have been earned outside of Korea and transferred into a special account. There is a whole website devoted to that VISA at
http://www.investkorea.org/InvestKoreaWar/work/ik/eng/index.jsp
As stated, I appreciate your post, but I would really like to find someone who is single with an F5, or better yet, and a foreign male who got an F5 as a result of divorce caused by his k-wife. |
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