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Norith



Joined: 02 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:04 am    Post subject: Returning to Korea after running? Reply with quote

I did a midnight run at my first hogwon job in Korea, after having been there for about six months. My boss had strung me along with promises of fulfilling the contract, but eventually told me that major clauses from the contract would not be upheld...so I left. Since returning to the US, I've had little luck with the job market and find myself missing Korea.

Should I just honestly disclose my background in Korea to recruiters and potential employers? It seems like a decent hogwon owner will know about the shady practices of some owners and won't care that I've ran in the past, so long as they hear the story....am I way off base here?

I've considered removing it from my resume, but I'm sure questions of whether I've got teaching experience will come up in the interview, and I've got Korean stamps and the visa in my passport.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's still worth putting it in your resume. I had a 4 month "thing" before going to a public school, and it was right there for recruiters, schools, and immigration to see. I was questioned, and only 1 recruiter told me I shouldn't leave. However, if you are not treated fairly, then it's best to move on.

Just don't expect the higher paying jobs because they usually use 1 year as a basis to give higher pay. Even if it was in another country, the 1 year rule still applies often depending on the school. Another reason why you are limited is that they want references, and obviously you can't get one.

The industry needs more teachers with these 6 month periods in their resume so recruiters and schools see that teachers are not their slave for a year. If they ask why you left, make it as much of a mutual agreement as you can. You didn't just pack your stuff up and leave without notice.
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Norith



Joined: 02 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your advice, but I really did just pack up and leave. It just happened to be after a 6-month bout of asking whether the contract stipulations would be upheld, and being assured that next month everything would be righted. I was just clearly told after half the year that I should take note of the situation and understand that things would not change from the way they were, and that the contract was not important in light of what the school owner wanted. It was infact the school owner who enlightened me, I guess because he figured he had nothing to lose, and at best I would stop bothering him about righting the situation.


Anyone else have experience applying for jobs with a sordid history, even (and especially) if it isn't your fault?
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just put it on your resume. Just say you quit due to bad conditions etc. Don't say you did a runner.
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



Joined: 28 May 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take it off your resume and 'lose' your passport.

You'll come abck here under a new passport number.

At least take it off your resume anyhow.

Don't tell a recruiter or potential employer you ran regardless of how sh*tty the job was.

They'll see a red flag and just hire one of the other 100 applicants they have.....
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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long have you been gone? Did you turn in your Alien Resident Card at the airport when you left? The only problem you might have with returning is if your visa from your first job here has not been canceled. If that is the case, then you wouldnt be eligible to apply for a new visa until your old one expired.
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tenchu77491



Joined: 16 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ran at the 6 month mark on my first hagwon job. I returned 2 months later and did not place it on my resume. Basically you want to cover it up and everything will be ok.
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Norith



Joined: 02 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never turned in my ARC actually, but I don't think that's a problem. It's been over a year, and I've called up the immigration office that issued my E-2 and ARC card, and they said my status was cleared and I was eligible for a new visa. I would certainly rather be honest, since I feel like I was a trooper for sticking with my employer for 6 months without the contract lining up with the actual working conditions...

Like I said, I'd considered removing it from my resume, but isn't getting a replacement passport a little excessive? Isn't it just as likely that the immigration office will tell my future prospective employer that this isn't my first E-2? And then I would be fraudulently getting the job, by telling them that I had no teaching experience, hadn't lived in Korea before, etc...


If I just put the job on my resume and say that I quit due to bad conditions, is it likely that my recruiter/prospective employers will want to contact my old boss?
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norith wrote:
I never turned in my ARC actually, but I don't think that's a problem. It's been over a year, and I've called up the immigration office that issued my E-2 and ARC card, and they said my status was cleared and I was eligible for a new visa. I would certainly rather be honest, since I feel like I was a trooper for sticking with my employer for 6 months without the contract lining up with the actual working conditions...

Like I said, I'd considered removing it from my resume, but isn't getting a replacement passport a little excessive? Isn't it just as likely that the immigration office will tell my future prospective employer that this isn't my first E-2? And then I would be fraudulently getting the job, by telling them that I had no teaching experience, hadn't lived in Korea before, etc...


If I just put the job on my resume and say that I quit due to bad conditions, is it likely that my recruiter/prospective employers will want to contact my old boss?




One more factor you should consider is this:

When you apply for a visa, your resume is part of your application package. It is a legal document given to Immigration. They can and do check your resume against their own files including your Korean job history (although not always). If your resume does not match their own history you can be denied a visa. This could turn into a permanent ban if Immigration believes it was fraud and not just an oversight.

Teachers have come to Dave's in the past reporting this problem as the reason for being denied a visa and asking for advice.

Do not lie to Immigration. It will be easier if you try to explain to your future employer. Some will turn you down, but eventually someone will listen, understand, and hire you.
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Norith



Joined: 02 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway, thanks! I think I was phishing for just this sort of advice. I just needed some reassurance that not every recruiter/hogwon owner would pass me over for my history.
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