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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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 Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:04 am Post subject: Drunk and Die? Your life = 10,000,000WON..That's it. |
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A group of police officers must financially compensate the family of a drunken man who died as a result of their failure to provide proper care.
The Seoul Central District Court ruled Thursday that the policemen have to pay 10 million won to the family of the man only identified as Lee.
According to court records, Lee passed out outside on a rainy day in December 2006 in Pohang, North Gyeongsang Province. He was taken to a nearby police sub-station but left uncared for despite his calls for medical attention. Five hours later, he was taken to a hospital but declared dead on arrival.
``The deceased showed signs of being seriously ill that were not common for a person who was drunk,'' Senior Judge Lee Jun-ho said in the ruling. ``Police officers on the scene didn't even bother to do CPR or any other measures to help him.''
The judge said the police officers acted negligently and should compensate Lee's family according to a law on restitution and compensation. He told the policemen to pay equal amounts.
However, the court observed that it was hard to validate the family's allegations that police brutality was the cause of Lee's death, in ruling that they would only receive a smaller sum of money. |
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/10/117_52844.html |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| I think the amounts awarded for compensation show that in many ways Koreans are still thinking in terms of 3rd world average incomes. I've never seen an award that would amount to millions of dollars. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| This is one more example of why Korea is not yet a global player. |
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UknowsI
Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| I would say it's impossible to comment on the verdict from the limited amount of information given in the article. Everything falls on a single sentence quote which might be taken out of context. I don't think it would help anyone if they were charged a hundred million dollars either, so even if they showed great misconduct I think the fine is fine. However, if it has been proven that they are not doing their job properly they should be fired and not be allowed to work as police officers any more. |
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Papa Smurf
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:07 am Post subject: |
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| the guy drank himself to death. not the cops fault. |
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orosee
Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Hannam-dong, Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| Papa Smurf wrote: |
| the guy drank himself to death. not the cops fault. |
 Apart from the article saying something different, even if the cause of death was alcohol related then the police has to be held accountable for denying medical care to that person, at least negligence. |
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Papa Smurf
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| orosee wrote: |
| Papa Smurf wrote: |
| the guy drank himself to death. not the cops fault. |
Apart from the article saying something different, even if the cause of death was alcohol related then the police has to be held accountable for denying medical care to that person, at least negligence. |
yeah. i guess im just bitter about constantly stepping over guys in my neigborhood, who have passed out because they drank themselves stupid. no sympathy. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| Mr. Pink wrote: |
| I think the amounts awarded for compensation show that in many ways Koreans are still thinking in terms of 3rd world average incomes. I've never seen an award that would amount to millions of dollars. |
Do you wish Korea would emulate the American legal system, where people can eat fast food all their lives and then sue the fast food restaurant for millions of dollars for making them fat?
Also, in REAL "3rd world" countries, the average person could barely earn the equivalent of 10 million won in a lifetime of work.
Anyone who thinks South Korea in any way resembles a 3rd world country has obviously never been to one. |
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Gibberish
Joined: 29 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:32 am Post subject: |
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| I'm torn, since I imagine his pleas deserve compensation, but in the end, he was the one who drank too much and passed out in the rain. Had he not been found, he would have died on his own, and the police would not have to pay any restitution, obviously. The amount awarded for negligence in this case, where someone essentially kills themselves, seems to be correct, as opposed to the hundred of thousands or even millions someone in the U.S.A. might get, which are absolutely bloated amounts. |
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orosee
Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Hannam-dong, Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Papa Smurf wrote: |
| orosee wrote: |
| Papa Smurf wrote: |
| the guy drank himself to death. not the cops fault. |
Apart from the article saying something different, even if the cause of death was alcohol related then the police has to be held accountable for denying medical care to that person, at least negligence. |
yeah. i guess im just bitter about constantly stepping over guys in my neigborhood, who have passed out because they drank themselves stupid. no sympathy. |
At least you still get the guys; all I have left in the morning are the vomit puddles.
The best thing about Winter in Korea is that the puke pools are all frozen in the morning - no smelly, no sticky. |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Gibberish wrote: |
| I'm torn, since I imagine his pleas deserve compensation, but in the end, he was the one who drank too much and passed out in the rain. Had he not been found, he would have died on his own, and the police would not have to pay any restitution, obviously. The amount awarded for negligence in this case, where someone essentially kills themselves, seems to be correct, as opposed to the hundred of thousands or even millions someone in the U.S.A. might get, which are absolutely bloated amounts. |
Wow, you're putting a price on life?   |
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Darkray16
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Papa Smurf wrote: |
| the guy drank himself to death. not the cops fault. |
If they hadn't taken him to the station then he could have asked a passerby for help to call the ambulance but they took him there and left him to die. But this was not manslaughter, this was negligence completely. Whether the negligence amounted to 10mil won I 'm not sure, but they were guilty of neglecting to help him as they had him in their custody and therefore responsible for doing whatever is reasonable to save his life. |
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GoldMember
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Simple fact is, in Asia, life is cheap! |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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What is the family of that drunk old man doing? Did they even go to the police when they found out he wasn't home? Why was the guy out drinking by himself?
The family won 10,000,000w because the guy died. If the police had taken the guy to the hospital, then I would bet the family would be DOWN 10,000,000w in medical bills. Due to his old age, and his medical condition was serious enough to cause death, he would probably need to be hospitalized for an extended period.
And, if the police had taken the old man to the hospital and the family had to pay a lot of money for medical care, I'm fairly certain the family would've blamed the police for taking him to the hospital and would've demanded some compensation for the medical costs.
The family's reasoning being, "He was just drunk. You didn't have to take him to the hospital. You took him there and now we have to pay a lot of money." |
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kabrams
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Papa Smurf wrote: |
| orosee wrote: |
| Papa Smurf wrote: |
| the guy drank himself to death. not the cops fault. |
Apart from the article saying something different, even if the cause of death was alcohol related then the police has to be held accountable for denying medical care to that person, at least negligence. |
yeah. i guess im just bitter about constantly stepping over guys in my neigborhood, who have passed out because they drank themselves stupid. no sympathy. |
You'd rather a person die than for you to have to step around him? You're "bitter" about that, and so you have no sympathy for someone who died (and it may or may not have been from alcohol poisoning)?
Christ. |
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