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Halcyom Chimera



Joined: 24 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject: Graduating soon with MSE Reply with quote

Hello all! I have been browsing the boards a bit, but I'd like to ask some questions. Frist, let me give you some information about myself.

I am a 24 year old graduate student graduating with a master's in education with a concentration in English language arts (ELA). I already have a bachelor's in the same field. I have a current Alabama teaching certificate (Class B but will advance to class A upon graduating).

I've spoken with EPIK; they say someone with my qualifications (no TESOL experience) I would start out a 2.3-2.4KRW per month. Is that reasonable or should I look elsewhere? Granted, I have no TESOL experience, but I will hold two degrees in teaching Enlish at the middle and secondary level.

And what schools should I look to? Thanks.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are licensed and that's what they pay? So sad. Korea obvously doesn't want qualified people.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you barking up the wrong tree if you want more green men. You should go to private schools or Universities, why are you talking to EPIK for?
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Halcyom Chimera



Joined: 24 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I am not sure where to go. It seems like universities want people with experience. I've only taught in the classroom during a practicum and student teaching internship, but that was during undergrad. \

I was thinking I could do better than EPIK too. It's just hard to pinpoint what private places or universities I can contact. I've been constantly monitoring the Korean job boards. Would any other country pay more? China? Japan? Whatever?

Thanks.
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Halcyom Chimera



Joined: 24 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much should I expect for my qualifications? 2.5+? I'm still really new at this, even after browsing the forums. Anyone have any .05 they want to pitch in? Thanks
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EPIK, GEPIK, SMOE, etc are Government agencies and they have a SET pay scale. When they say 2.3, that's is as high as they'll go.

Big monies are Oil Sheikdoms. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE and so on.

Universities in Korea do house clearing with staff quite often.
Do not worry about not having experience. Korea is a land of thinking-on-your-feet and meeting unexpected expectations.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forget Korea for ESL. You would do better to put your time in teaching 2yrs at a lower tier international school that finds it hard to attract experienced teachers. After 2yrs experience, you are pretty much open to apply to any international school and you can choose for the money.

Hiring season starts in January for international schools, so if you are interested in that check out some fairs. I know a couple lower tier international schools went to my university's educational fair and 2 people from my class got jobs: one in HK and the other in Vietnam. Besides me, I think we are the only 3 people who went abroad to international schools. A bunch went to the UK, but I would advise AGAINST that.
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Halcyom Chimera



Joined: 24 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Pink wrote:
Forget Korea for ESL. You would do better to put your time in teaching 2yrs at a lower tier international school that finds it hard to attract experienced teachers. After 2yrs experience, you are pretty much open to apply to any international school and you can choose for the money.

Hiring season starts in January for international schools, so if you are interested in that check out some fairs. I know a couple lower tier international schools went to my university's educational fair and 2 people from my class got jobs: one in HK and the other in Vietnam. Besides me, I think we are the only 3 people who went abroad to international schools. A bunch went to the UK, but I would advise AGAINST that.


Thanks for your input. Could you point me in the right direction concerning those international schools you're speaking of? If not job listings, then at least more information? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!

And why would you advise against the UK? I've always considered teaching or living there someday.
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Halcyom Chimera



Joined: 24 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone else help me with this information?
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Drew345



Joined: 24 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apply for the DoDEA school system, you could work in Korea or Japan. Or apply for International schools in Korea.
Your qualifications are way too high to settle for less.
Unfortunately, the DoDEA highers in summer for years that start in Fall.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halcyom Chimera wrote:
Mr. Pink wrote:
Forget Korea for ESL. You would do better to put your time in teaching 2yrs at a lower tier international school that finds it hard to attract experienced teachers. After 2yrs experience, you are pretty much open to apply to any international school and you can choose for the money.

Hiring season starts in January for international schools, so if you are interested in that check out some fairs. I know a couple lower tier international schools went to my university's educational fair and 2 people from my class got jobs: one in HK and the other in Vietnam. Besides me, I think we are the only 3 people who went abroad to international schools. A bunch went to the UK, but I would advise AGAINST that.


Thanks for your input. Could you point me in the right direction concerning those international schools you're speaking of? If not job listings, then at least more information? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!

And why would you advise against the UK? I've always considered teaching or living there someday.


I would advise against going to the UK because they hire NA teachers to go into the places that UK teachers WONT go. You start off supply teaching, then get a placement. The schools aren't where I would ever want to teach. You'd be just as good to do an inner city teaching stint in America. Also the pay vs the cost of living just isn't worth it.

There are a couple international school recruiting agencies. Be aware that you will have to pay to use their services. The two that hold the most job fairs are ISS and Search Associates. Do a google search on them for their links. I also suggest you check out the forums at internationalschoolreview.com for info on these recruiters. When looking at schools in Korea or elsewhere it is also good to read some of the reviews on the school.

Job fair season is coming fast, so you should get yourself signed up and ready asap.
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hawaii4me272



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say go for the EPIK for now to at least get experience and get your foot in the door. Once you are in Korea (and your contract is complete with EPIK), then you will be able to check out university and college positions in Korea.

FYI: Look for a job about 2 or 3 months prior to your contract completion and make sure the job is lined before your contract is finished.

Best of luck!!!!!!!!!!
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